LJ Short Arm Suspension Options?

TexasTJ

Climbing Nerd
I am putting Wife in our 2012 and I just can't bring myself to driver her 2wd Liberty for two long. With that in mind we will be cleaning up her Liberty to sell it in the next week or so. Then we are M looking into getting 04-06 Unlimited. I wanting to see what short arm suspension solutions were out there. I'll just be running 33x10.50 on the stock jeep wheels, and care more about load carrying than getting kick *** and useless flex.

Thanking of OME or AEV style options and know I will not need a long arm kit.

I have built a TJ in the past for rock crawling and I know this jeep will not need to be anything like that one.

It would be nice to get a good Pro Con list going on this stuff as to better for Rocks vs Expeditions!


Thanks for any help

Nate
 

02Prove

New member
For expedition I'd run as little lift as possible and go with a low COG set up. OME has a "stiffer" shock for heavier loads but will still ride great and you won't feel like your riding in a log wagon.
 

hollaback55

Explorer
LJ's are fantastic jeeps, my personal favorites of all them. to run 33's is actually quite easy on an LJ and depending on your budget you can either go wild or just have a conservative great ride.

I've owned 2 LJ's, each had a different setup suspension wise. IMO you cant go wrong with a nice OME lift kit for these vehicles to clear the 33" tire. They make a variety of spring options for Jeeps and net a lift height of around 2 1/2 to 3" depending on spring choice, weight load you plan on carrying, hard top/soft top, ect. Many companies sell OME lift kits so I cannot say who offers the best pricing. I bought my kit from a small company and the owner was fabulously knowledgeable regarding OME and their spring choices. I also went with a Long travel shock 3"-5" for better droop. The kit i bought included bumpstops, springs, shocks, spacers front and rear, brake lines, swaybar endlinks. I added on trac bars, front and rear control arms, body lift, mml, ect. The car rode amazing, firm but not harsh and it handled like a dream on and offroad. I think in total i spent 2400 for the entire suspension which included all 8 control arms and trac bars front and rear (JKS), springs, shocks, and everything else i listed above. it gets much cheaper if you dont get the control arms, they alone were close to 1,000 bucks for all 8.

Now my current LJ has a much different setup. Its basically an AEV short arm suspension style kit that revolves around their 3" springs, stinger/slider combo, and tummy tuck. It has shock shifters, aftermarket control arms, new swaybar system (ORO SwayLoc), AEV rear trac bar tower, and all the other necessary hardware. The main difference between these two is the progressive coils. At 3" of lift you need to modify the rear trac bar in my opinion by adding a trac bar tower and add their front trac bar setup for the TJ. Now doing so greatly increases the install time and work necessary to modify the rear axle with the weld on tower and install the front tower as well. It is a more involved installation than the OME system which relied on using adjustable aftermarket trac bars (which i used and worked great at 2 1/2" of lift). Additionally the AEV setup will cost more $$$ by the time you get all the pieces together and then add in shocks. You could drop the stinger/slider combo and just use aftermarket control arms but the stinger/slider/tummy tuck is a fantastic addition in the handling on and off road as well as protection for the underneath guts of the jeep.

IMO its all about the coils though, AEV progressive rate coils are just fabulous. When i load up my jeep it doesn't sag or lose capability/handling. I have a 37" spare tire, pullpal/highlift/arb gear bag, jeep bag all in the rear with my hardtop on and it exhibits no sag after a year plus or a loss of handling. My OME kit came with spacers for a reason and i needed them after a year to compensate for sag in the rear. Additionally, AEV makes a specific spring rate for the LJ which takes into account the extra length and more gear you can carry with an LJ vs. a TJ. Cost wise you'll spend more, close to what a long arm kit would cost you but you'll have a fabulously engineered suspension system with a LCG and a great on road off road capability.

Third option is just to keep your stock suspension and get a highline kit from Genright, AEV, Rokmen or any of the companies that sell them. you'll be able to clear 33's no problem and still be using all stock suspension components.

if you have any questions or whatnot feel free to pm me.
 

nwoods

Expedition Leader
Can't go wrong with AEV, but another worthy alternative it Currie's 4" short arm kit. Mine worked well....but I used AEV's progressive rate coils :)
 

monele

Adventurer
I too have an LJ, and am running 33's. I have the Skyjacker Valuflex suspension (2 1/2") and some spacers from Teraflex to round it out to about 3.25". As well I have a 1.25" Body lift and a motor mount lift to match. The body lift/MML made room for a tummy-tuck center skid (do them at the same time and you never have to deal with a T-case shifter bracket), a little lift on the gas tank skid, and more room for the bigger spare tire. So far the only downside to the skyjacker is that the poly bushings transfer a little more vibe than the rubber did. The other bonus to sticking with a 2 1/2"-3" lift on an LJ is that there's no need to fuss with the rear drive shaft (at 4" you have some work to do) I also recommend some kind of release on the front sway bar (I have the Teraflex single rate S/T Swaybar, I really like the JKS with multiple settings) just to make the trail bumps less annoying. I have run tons of trails in Moab and Colorado with the set up. I wouldn't go area BFE in Moab with it (though mostly b/c I have to drive it back to Memphis) and I won't go to Chinaman's Gulch in Colorado. Other than that I haven't found a trail in either place I don't feel comfortable running. I think the most important is to look for a complete kit (less maybe shocks) that addresses the track-bars and replaces the control arms (the factory ones are just kind of weak and shorten your wheel base if you keep them with lift springs) There are lots of companies that have nice kits (all of the one's mentioned previously have great reputations) and I recommend finding folks near you who have TJ's & LJ's to look at and maybe ride along with to see how they feel before you buy.

Good Shot of suspension flexed some here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/monele1/Moab09#5357632781844026434
 

Jim K in PA

Adventurer
I have a 2005 LJ Rubicon. For the last 4 years I have run 255/85-16s with a BL, TT and MML. The tires just touched the sway bar at full lock, and rubbed the edge of the flare at full stuff. No wheel spacers needed. I just installed an OME (heavy) kit, and I am impressed with the ride. The OME gave me 2" of lift, but the factory Rubicon springs are ~1" taller than non-Rubicon springs. I also replaced all my control arms with tubular, double adjustable, with Summit Machine flex joints. I had them made locally. I am still running the stock front track bar. The axle is only off-center about 0.5", but the non-stock diff cover hits the track bar, so I will be revising it. Be VERY careful with the front track bar. There have been many instances where the upper link gets broken from hitting an aftermarket diff cover. Check out this lengthy Jeep forum thread. I will be revising my frame mount and building a custom front track bar. The OME kit comes with a rear track bar relocation bracket that seems to be fine.
 

86cj

Explorer
33x10.50x15

My LJ's first lift was a BB spacer lift and 1.25" Body Lift to clear 33x10.50x15 BFG's on stock rims w/ no spacer. I liked the tire size alot it was light and cleared everything well, a good choice. A 1.25" body lift and Motor mount combo, will allow that tire to clear with very little spring lift, I did put the 1" wider "RUBI" flares on my Sport though. You need better springs and some Bilsteins but if you go over 2", you might as well go full 3" or 4" kit and address almost every part.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
189,369
Messages
2,915,939
Members
232,189
Latest member
Jonny Adventures
Top