Locker Talk............

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RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
Hey Mark

Yes, a rear locker will make a world of difference.

Here are my somewhat biased opinions:

I have installed and wheeled with quite a few rigs using the "LockRight" lunchbox locker, worked great, super easy install, very cheap! These work very well on rigs with 35" or smaller tires!

I have wheeled with MANY folks with ARBs that are always messing with them on the trail because a solenoid is stuck, of the line is leaking or the orings are leaking, etc..... Sure theyre are people that run them for years with zero problems, but everytime i run with some guys using them, they are always having to mess with them. Plus the intial costs and such is way too much in my opinion based on what else is out there!

I just got done "Retrofitting" the toyota factory rear locker in my rig and i am completely sold on it! It uses all factory parts, so it has the rock solid toyota reliabilty that we love so much!

For YOUR particular situation, i would pick up an aussie locker, or lock right no slip and we can install it in under 2 hours (i have installed several already) and use the $ you save or other mods!

OR if you wanted to spend some more $, i would find a new (or used) used tacoma locking 3rd member and retro it to your exising housing so you can keep your track width the same (if that is important). If keeping your track width stock isnt important (i personally would prefer a wider stance) then i would locate a whole entire locked tacoma rear end assembly and bolt it in and go! You might need to relocate the perches, but that is simple!

Depending on which route you take we can do most of the work in my driveway to save you some costs as well.

Check out my writeup for the work i did on my elocker install:
http://www.yankeetoys.org/mangler/elockerinstall.htm
 

calamaridog

Expedition Leader
Mark,

I think Kevin is onto something here. I was just looking at the Powertrax No-Slip for your application. The cost is very reasonable for around $400.

I would be happy to help you and Kevin install that bad boy.
 
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Scenic WonderRunner

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Thanks Kevin and Bryan for your input!

Here is a video that Roy "bluetrooper" took while out at Table Mtn. last sat.
This was a pretty step climb on lose dirt. The guys with lockers and LSD made it up with ease. The video does not do justice to how steep this was. But it does show that I sure need a locker or two!:rolleyes:

Scenic WonderRunner Table Mtn. Climb Video

I'll let you know if and when I make my final choice.....and thanks so much for offering to help out!

Kevin..........I found an 8 Ton Hitch out on the trail Sunday at the bottom of a steep wash. I will gladly trade you this for your help at your garage. If you can't use it......use it as currency for something for your truck!:elkgrin:

Another thought..........I guess I could just do the "Aussie Mod" while waiting (because I can get it real fast) to locate a TRD E~Locker 3rd Member. We can start the WonderRunner locker mod/assessment thread. Then later if I want to upgrade.....I can always sell it.
 
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+ d

Adventurer
Mark,

given the advice here, and over in my thread, i am 90% settled on the PowerTrax NoSlip. Chris Shontz posted a pretty informative post, with some links to articles that he wrote, that is worth checking out.

I am intrigued by the aussie locker (thanks for the link) because its so inexpensive (over $100 less), but i am not sure how to really perform any sort of comparison with the powertrax. Both are the self claimed "smoothest"!

Also, i forgot to mention to you last saturday that there is another apparently well reputed axle place in town, MIT in el cajon 619-579-7727. i've noticed a few of the offroad mags will come down from LA to use these guys...
 

chet

island Explorer
I have a lor-rite in the rear of my sidekick. I have had real detroits and ARB's int he past. the loc-rite is the easiest but also the loudest and biggest pain on the pavement. It is by no means smooth! The detroits were smooth I never knew they were in there until I needed them.

I agree with the ARB comments. They are failure prone based on the air lines, solenoids etc. I liked mine but hated the problems. One guy in our club has a new detroit electrac and it is pretty cool. Its a ltd slip when off and a full locker when on.
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
Scenic WonderRunner said:
Thanks Kevin and Bryan for your input!

No Sweat Man!

Scenic WonderRunner said:
I'll let you know if and when I make my final choice.....and thanks so much for offering to help out!

No Sweat, with whatever you choose, we can install it! I have done many of each! :)

Scenic WonderRunner said:
Kevin..........I found an 8 Ton Hitch out on the trail Sunday at the bottom of a steep wash. I will gladly trade you this for your help at your garage. If you can't use it......use it as currency for something for your truck!:elkgrin:

Uhhh, no, first off, you dont need to trade me or give me anything to pay for help with your truck. Help is free! :D Second off, who on earth needs an 8 Ton hitch? :D

Scenic WonderRunner said:
Another thought..........I guess I could just do the "Aussie Mod" while waiting (because I can get it real fast) to locate a TRD E~Locker 3rd Member. We can start the WonderRunner locker mod/assessment thread. Then later if I want to upgrade.....I can always sell it.

Excellent idea! However, i will bet you that after installing it and seeing how well it performs and how cheap it is, i bet ya keep it! Also Mark, the No Slip that D+ speaks of is actually even better then the Aussie Locker and is the same install!

My .02
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
+ d said:
Also, i forgot to mention to you last saturday that there is another apparently well reputed axle place in town, MIT in el cajon 619-579-7727. i've noticed a few of the offroad mags will come down from LA to use these guys...

Cmon Dave, i thought we were all friends here man! Why would you steer our buddy Mark to one of the worst places to have work done in Southern Call! :D

PM for details if you care, or just post up on JeepsUnlimited.com in the Wrangler section, MANY will complain of work done to their rig that need to be brought back in for "Adjustments" 2 or 3 times to get it working properly!!

Ok, you got me all riled up now! I had an AX5 tranny rebuilt by them for $800 after the install it wouldnt go into 5th, they claimed i broke it, installing it, um yeah, smoke some more crack!!

One of my good friends Joe had ARB's installed in his YJ wranger there front and rear, front leaked, got it fixed, the rear ring gear FELL off and grenaded because they forgot to locktite the ring bolts! They fixed it for free but his rig was down for almost a month!

My cousin had his rear end and Tcase rebuilt by them in his 68 Bronco! Within a week the rear end leaked and the tcase was 2x as noisy as before! None of this is "Through The Mill" rumor, this is all 1st hand knowledge!

I wouldnt give that place my biz if they were giving away free ARB's to all!

Sorry to go on such a negative rant, but they are the devil! :mad:
 

cruiseroutfit

Supporting Sponsor: Cruiser Outfitters
Boston Mangler said:
Cmon Dave, i thought we were all friends here man! Why would you steer our buddy Mark to one of the worst places to have work done in Southern Call!

Out comes the truth... Now I know why you seem to have a bad taste towards ARB's. INSTALLER ERROR in almost every case. :ylsmoke:

Never had an ARB leave me stranded, I can't say that for the D60 E-locker I broke at Supercrawl III (and Carl broke at Supercrawl II)

Lockrights/Aussies are the best bang (literally) for the buck. They are easier on the budget than anything else, and a couple year warranty to boot.
 

+ d

Adventurer
Boston Mangler said:
...one of the worst places to have work done in Southern Cal...

i had no idea!!!
thanks for settin' me straight, they certainly charge enough that their work should be perfect! well, now i know. thanks kevin!
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
+ d said:
So where do you guys recommend getting a PowerTrax/NoSlip from? My first search turned up $365 at Rocky-Road.com.

Rocky Road is a great outfit, i have bought lots of stuff from them. Also, Sams Offroad and MORE are both good too!

As for the install, we can do it in a driveway in under 2 hours.
 

awalter

Expedition Portal Team, Overland Certified OC0003
Myself & others I know have used MIT & have been very pleased with the work. If all of their work was as bad as stated above they wouldn't stay in business long. They have been around for many years, they must be doing something right.
 

durango_60

Explorer
+ d said:
So where do you guys recommend getting a PowerTrax/NoSlip from? My first search turned up $365 at Rocky-Road.com.

I recmmend you give Kurt @ Cruiser Outfitters a call. He's always giving helpful advice on the forum and his pricing is as good as anyone elses if not better. He specializs in yota's but I'm sure he could get you a locker for your jeep.
 
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Scenic WonderRunner

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+ d said:
So where do you guys recommend getting a PowerTrax/NoSlip from? My first search turned up $365 at Rocky-Road.com.

David......

I've seen the Rocky~Road website. I think that's the best price I have seen.

Maybe we should have a locker install party with unlimted chips and salsa for Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!:sunflower
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
Scenic WonderRunner said:
David......

I've seen the Rocky~Road website. I think that's the best price I have seen.

Maybe we should have a locker install party with unlimted chips and salsa for Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!:sunflower

DEAL!
 

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