Looking for a "survival rifle"
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big sky trapper
Adventurer
wow a pretty good selection going among the members.
But my take on things has become a little differant as i get older
My personal ultimate survi weapon:
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Its a .50 cal fire locked, rifled barrel, capable of loading traditional round balls as low as 175 grains or Mini balls up to 550 grain weight. Small shot up to buck shot.
I can make my own "bullets" over any campfire from just about anything. I can still legaly make for my own use up to 500 pounds of Black Powder per year with out any licencing ect.
I ve used just about everything from wasp nest to my shirt tails for packing and wadding.
This rifle has taken several deer, antelope, an elk, and to many ducks, grouse, pheasants, squirrels, gophers, beaver, coons ect to count in the last year. And one black angus cow of ours that had to be put down. And hopefully this winter a fair chase buffer!
A max loaded shot of 100 grains of Goex 3f and a patched round ball cost about 20 cents a shot with store bought componets As long as I do my part as the rifleman there's no animal on this continent i wouldnt go after with it
It dont need primers or caps, just a piece of flint or chert found all most every where for a sparker.
The muzzel report is extreamly quiet compared to any center fire, and no more recoil than a 5.56
And last of all at present no state or federal juristriction that im aware of considers it a "firearm". Although there are a few heathinistic places that it will be comming up shortly ....
But my take on things has become a little differant as i get older
My personal ultimate survi weapon:
Its a .50 cal fire locked, rifled barrel, capable of loading traditional round balls as low as 175 grains or Mini balls up to 550 grain weight. Small shot up to buck shot.
I can make my own "bullets" over any campfire from just about anything. I can still legaly make for my own use up to 500 pounds of Black Powder per year with out any licencing ect.
I ve used just about everything from wasp nest to my shirt tails for packing and wadding.
This rifle has taken several deer, antelope, an elk, and to many ducks, grouse, pheasants, squirrels, gophers, beaver, coons ect to count in the last year. And one black angus cow of ours that had to be put down. And hopefully this winter a fair chase buffer!
A max loaded shot of 100 grains of Goex 3f and a patched round ball cost about 20 cents a shot with store bought componets As long as I do my part as the rifleman there's no animal on this continent i wouldnt go after with it
It dont need primers or caps, just a piece of flint or chert found all most every where for a sparker.
The muzzel report is extreamly quiet compared to any center fire, and no more recoil than a 5.56
And last of all at present no state or federal juristriction that im aware of considers it a "firearm". Although there are a few heathinistic places that it will be comming up shortly ....
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007
Explorer
big sky trapper said:wow a pretty good selection going among the members.
But my take on things has become a little differant as i get older
My personal ultimate survi weapon:
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Its a .50 cal fire locked, rifled barrel, capable of loading traditional round balls as low as 175 grains or Mini balls up to 550 grain weight. Small shot up to buck shot.
I can make my own "bullets" over any campfire from just about anything. I can still legaly make for my own use up to 500 pounds of Black Powder per year with out any licencing ect.
I ve used just about everything from wasp nest to my shirt tails for packing and wadding.
This rifle has taken several deer, antelope, an elk, and to many ducks, grouse, pheasants, squirrels, gophers, beaver, coons ect to count in the last year. And one black angus cow of ours that had to be put down. And hopefully this winter a fair chase buffer!
A max loaded shot of 100 grains of Goex 3f and a patched round ball cost about 20 cents a shot with store bought componets As long as I do my part as the rifleman there's no animal on this continent i wouldnt go after with it
It dont need primers or caps, just a piece of flint or chert found all most every where for a sparker.
The muzzel report is extreamly quiet compared to any center fire, and no more recoil than a 5.56
And last of all at present no state or federal juristriction that im aware of considers it a "firearm". Although there are a few heathinistic places that it will be comming up shortly ....
I just realized how perfect and well tested a flintlock rifle really is! (thanks) Great survival gun, and think about the added safety! I'm dependent on primers. I need a flintlock!
I like your style.
RAB
New member
I also have a savage .22 mag. over and 20 gauge lower, it works for about any thing you need to hunt.
I would suggest that you look in to a cheap little Ruger semi auto .22 rifle.
these seem to be a nice firearm, my uncle has one. its cheap to shoot very low recoil, so it is novice shooter friendly. easy to clean, and if you get a composite stock there is almost no maintenance.
or if you really need a survival rifle there is always the Henry survival rifle. its purpose is in the name! i never had one, my buddy did he liked it but they are a bit more expensive than a Ruger like by $20 or so. the Henry also breaks down. so it will be easier to transport in a loaded up expedition vehicle:ar15:
I would suggest that you look in to a cheap little Ruger semi auto .22 rifle.
these seem to be a nice firearm, my uncle has one. its cheap to shoot very low recoil, so it is novice shooter friendly. easy to clean, and if you get a composite stock there is almost no maintenance.
or if you really need a survival rifle there is always the Henry survival rifle. its purpose is in the name! i never had one, my buddy did he liked it but they are a bit more expensive than a Ruger like by $20 or so. the Henry also breaks down. so it will be easier to transport in a loaded up expedition vehicle:ar15:
ntsqd
Heretic Car Camper
I've never been all that impressed with pistol cartridges out of a rifle or carbine. The weight of the long gun is pretty much the same regardless of caliber. The weight of spare ammo isn't much different. Why handicap yourself for the sake of only one type of ammo? It's not that I don't understand the appeal, I just am not willing to make that compromise. The closest that I'd personally come to buying such a critter is a lever gun in .38-55 or .375 Win.
EDIT: On the drive home from work I realized that common calibers might work OK if the area in question doesn't need or can't use mid-ish level rifle power (.30-30 etc.). I'm not sure what sort of area this might be, but I would imagine that they do exist.
EDIT: On the drive home from work I realized that common calibers might work OK if the area in question doesn't need or can't use mid-ish level rifle power (.30-30 etc.). I'm not sure what sort of area this might be, but I would imagine that they do exist.
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RocTrac
Adventurer
I am thinking along the lines of a guide gun, short barrel for quick deployment. It may not be much on range but with good knock down power for in close, and of course one round for both weapons. I can't see shooting a rabbit or other small animal when they can be snared easily. Killing a large game animal is a waste since you can not carry it out with you and are not likely to stay long enough to eat it all. You also increase your chances for encounters with other preditors.
RocKrawler
Supporting Sponsor
Dont know if its been mentioned, but the Springfield M6 22LR/410 Survival is pretty nice, good article on upgrading it for real survival duties... http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/v-shrake/m6.html
Sportsman Matt
Adventurer
My preferred survival rifle is a H&R1871 Survivor Rifle/Shotgun in 45 Long Colt / .410 3" Shotgun Model Nickel-SB1-41N. Great single shot, takes handgun ammo or shotgun shells, plus has storage in the stock and foreend for ammo and small survival gear (fishing line and hooks, bandaids, wire snare, matches, candles, compass, spaceblanket, etc.)
I prefer the 410 3" with slugs for deer season, shoots like a rifle and less recoil over a 12 gauge, and use 3" #6 shot for bird and small game hunting. I've used the 45 Long Colts in place of a slug, much slower and very minimal recoil, good for rabbits with less noise over the 410 shells.
Also I carry 10 rounds of 410 in a shirt pocket, takes up the space of 3 12 gauge shells.
I prefer the 410 3" with slugs for deer season, shoots like a rifle and less recoil over a 12 gauge, and use 3" #6 shot for bird and small game hunting. I've used the 45 Long Colts in place of a slug, much slower and very minimal recoil, good for rabbits with less noise over the 410 shells.
Also I carry 10 rounds of 410 in a shirt pocket, takes up the space of 3 12 gauge shells.
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calamaridog
Expedition Leader
A little urban survival here:
Remington 870 - 12 gauge
Knoxx SpecOps recoil reducing stock (4 position adjustable)
Olight 220 lumen LED light
Magazine extension tube (6 + 1 capacity)
Hogue forearm
Remington 870 - 12 gauge
Knoxx SpecOps recoil reducing stock (4 position adjustable)
Olight 220 lumen LED light
Magazine extension tube (6 + 1 capacity)
Hogue forearm
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