Lucky 8’s Project P38
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Fivespddisco
Supporting Sponsor
Project Update : Recap with a Splash
When we started out with this truck we made a list of things to accomplish. Let's revisit it and see how we are doing.
3-5 in lift / 4 inch lift installed
Dump the 20in dubs for 16in and 33in mud tires / 33in Nittos installed
Front and rear bumpers / In production, just waiting on the first run.
Sliders / Installed
Front and rear lockers / They need to be installed
HD drag link and track rod / In production
Rear links that are not made from Fiberglass / Nothing yet
Lock the Borg Tcase some way some how. / Locked and working on a selectable option
HD rear shaft / Produced and waiting to be installed
HD CV and shafts / Out for pricing and possible production
Disconnect the BCM from the ECU "incase of failure the truck will still run" / I had a confirmation that this can be done just waiting on software to do it.
There was one more thing on the list and will get to that in a minute. Out of the 11 things listed above.
6 are complete
2 are in production
2 have a promising future
and one we did not even look at yet.
I feel like we're doing a pretty good job thus far.
Now that brings us to the last thing on the list waterproof the BECM.
I think we may have come up with something that could change the way we all think about our automotive computers and water. Here is a sneak peek at our new water guard system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ8TZdeFFNQ&list=UUUnCLXtAqip_9qd-T1NenbA&index=2
The water guard system is a chemically bonded bit of magic to the outside of the board that prevents water molecules from penetrating. The advantage is air can flow naturally over the board and it will not cause overheating issues.
What do you guys think?
When we started out with this truck we made a list of things to accomplish. Let's revisit it and see how we are doing.
3-5 in lift / 4 inch lift installed
Dump the 20in dubs for 16in and 33in mud tires / 33in Nittos installed
Front and rear bumpers / In production, just waiting on the first run.
Sliders / Installed
Front and rear lockers / They need to be installed
HD drag link and track rod / In production
Rear links that are not made from Fiberglass / Nothing yet
Lock the Borg Tcase some way some how. / Locked and working on a selectable option
HD rear shaft / Produced and waiting to be installed
HD CV and shafts / Out for pricing and possible production
Disconnect the BCM from the ECU "incase of failure the truck will still run" / I had a confirmation that this can be done just waiting on software to do it.
There was one more thing on the list and will get to that in a minute. Out of the 11 things listed above.
6 are complete
2 are in production
2 have a promising future
and one we did not even look at yet.
I feel like we're doing a pretty good job thus far.
Now that brings us to the last thing on the list waterproof the BECM.
I think we may have come up with something that could change the way we all think about our automotive computers and water. Here is a sneak peek at our new water guard system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ8TZdeFFNQ&list=UUUnCLXtAqip_9qd-T1NenbA&index=2
The water guard system is a chemically bonded bit of magic to the outside of the board that prevents water molecules from penetrating. The advantage is air can flow naturally over the board and it will not cause overheating issues.
What do you guys think?
R-Overland
Adventurer
oh you guys found some corrosion x? That's how we chemically bond a bit of magic to circuit boards
I'd like to see some more info on the lockable TC. How does it engage. How about some photo's?
I'd like to see some more info on the lockable TC. How does it engage. How about some photo's?
Fivespddisco
Supporting Sponsor
I don't think so my friend.
R-Overland
Adventurer
That's a great improvement. Can't wait to hear more details about the product used
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spikemd
Explorer
Well, I blew out the side wall on one of my Revo2s and another has a leak after my trip to Death Valley last week.
I am trying to decide between 32 (265/75 r16) or 33 inch (255/85 r16) tires. Most likely will get KM2s but my buddy has some 32inch Cooper Discoverer MAXX that are pretty nice and did well in DV. I have what you are calling a 4-5 inch lift on right now with RTE3s front and rear. The advantages of the 32 inch is that they have no problem fitting right now with no modification, slightly better gas mileage, lighter. The 33s are bigger and most of the Discos I run with have 33s as spares. Either way, I need to get a rear tire carrier made.
Thoughts?
I am trying to decide between 32 (265/75 r16) or 33 inch (255/85 r16) tires. Most likely will get KM2s but my buddy has some 32inch Cooper Discoverer MAXX that are pretty nice and did well in DV. I have what you are calling a 4-5 inch lift on right now with RTE3s front and rear. The advantages of the 32 inch is that they have no problem fitting right now with no modification, slightly better gas mileage, lighter. The 33s are bigger and most of the Discos I run with have 33s as spares. Either way, I need to get a rear tire carrier made.
Thoughts?
R-Overland
Adventurer
I am sorry about your mishap.
I am planning on fabbing a rear bumper with a carrier similar to the H2.
I am planning on fabbing a rear bumper with a carrier similar to the H2.
BlackGoldP38
New member
Thanks Lucky8 for the TWoods Driveshaft! Installed it Wednesday - vibrations and whining up front are gone.
Spike MD - My terrafirma 16" wheels should be in Monday. After researching Toyo MT, BFG KM2, and GY MT/R Kevlars in the 255/85/16 and 285/75/16 range I have decided to go with the Goodyear MT/R Kevlars in 285/75/16. Over 10 pounds lighter then the Toyo's, stronger then the BFG's, and an $80 rebate right now. I'll have to let you know how they handle on the P38 in a few weeks.
Spike MD - My terrafirma 16" wheels should be in Monday. After researching Toyo MT, BFG KM2, and GY MT/R Kevlars in the 255/85/16 and 285/75/16 range I have decided to go with the Goodyear MT/R Kevlars in 285/75/16. Over 10 pounds lighter then the Toyo's, stronger then the BFG's, and an $80 rebate right now. I'll have to let you know how they handle on the P38 in a few weeks.
spikemd
Explorer
I looked at that size but was worried about rubbing with the extra width. I just bought 5 255/85 r16s KM2s and installed them yesterday. Americas Tire had awesome customer service and gave me full credit for the two tires I destroyed the sidewalls on. Now I need to work on a rear tire carrier..
I need to remove the mudflaps as they rub on turning.
I need to remove the mudflaps as they rub on turning.
R-Overland
Adventurer
I was just going to tell you: 'You need to lose those mudflaps'
Fivespddisco
Supporting Sponsor
Project Update : Top to Bottom
New Rack
As much as we love the P38 SD rack, they are not very practical when compared to the modern racks on the market. So we stripped off the SD and slapped on a Front Runner unit.
We went with the Front Runner rack for a few reasons, but the main one was it can be swapped over to the the L322 Project truck or the LR3 for that matter. All you need to do is change the mounting feet.
The second factor is you can add almost anything to a front runner rack without drillling any holes. For example this double Jerry can holder. To mount it all you need to do is simply drop in the hardware to the pre existing locations and tighten down. It is that easy.
The shovel/ax holder is brilliant.
Moving down
The head liner in the P38 was coming apart from every corner. We pulled the liner out and and ripped off the fabric. This is what we were left with.
The fiberglass liner was still in good shape but it was covered in the remains of the fabric liner.
To remove the old liner film and glue from the fiberglass all you have to do is wipe it off, but we used a power washer and made quick work of the debris
With all the foam and glue removed it was time for the new liner. We stole this idea from Aarongregor on landroverforums. He did his headliner with a plastic / rubber paint and we thought it would be the best option.
After 3 cans we got this.
And in the truck
The P38 is being build for a hard life. A water and mud resistant headliner seemed like a better choice over fabric.
A little lower
With the truck on the lift we took this oppertunity to change the front drive shaft over to an L8 edition Tom Woods
Tom always makes our shafts with the super extended splines. This is extremely important when you have a truck with flex. It allows the driveshaft to extend during full articulation and still give enough room for complete compression
On the truck pic
How low can you go
Low tire pressure can be an asset on the trails. Unfortunately with low pressure you run the risk of popping the tire off the bead. To help prevent this ill side effect we install the Terrafirma bead lock rings.
After carefully torquing down all the rings for what seemed like an eternity we arrived at pure beauty
New Rack
As much as we love the P38 SD rack, they are not very practical when compared to the modern racks on the market. So we stripped off the SD and slapped on a Front Runner unit.
We went with the Front Runner rack for a few reasons, but the main one was it can be swapped over to the the L322 Project truck or the LR3 for that matter. All you need to do is change the mounting feet.
The second factor is you can add almost anything to a front runner rack without drillling any holes. For example this double Jerry can holder. To mount it all you need to do is simply drop in the hardware to the pre existing locations and tighten down. It is that easy.
The shovel/ax holder is brilliant.
Moving down
The head liner in the P38 was coming apart from every corner. We pulled the liner out and and ripped off the fabric. This is what we were left with.
The fiberglass liner was still in good shape but it was covered in the remains of the fabric liner.
To remove the old liner film and glue from the fiberglass all you have to do is wipe it off, but we used a power washer and made quick work of the debris
With all the foam and glue removed it was time for the new liner. We stole this idea from Aarongregor on landroverforums. He did his headliner with a plastic / rubber paint and we thought it would be the best option.
After 3 cans we got this.
And in the truck
The P38 is being build for a hard life. A water and mud resistant headliner seemed like a better choice over fabric.
A little lower
With the truck on the lift we took this oppertunity to change the front drive shaft over to an L8 edition Tom Woods
Tom always makes our shafts with the super extended splines. This is extremely important when you have a truck with flex. It allows the driveshaft to extend during full articulation and still give enough room for complete compression
On the truck pic
How low can you go
Low tire pressure can be an asset on the trails. Unfortunately with low pressure you run the risk of popping the tire off the bead. To help prevent this ill side effect we install the Terrafirma bead lock rings.
After carefully torquing down all the rings for what seemed like an eternity we arrived at pure beauty
ranewman
Observer
Watched Justin bomb the p38 around RC Saturday. I think he made it 1/8 of the way on the first trail....and trashed the front diff...interior. Later the covers came off and the diff case cracked. We could track where he had been by following the fluid. I will say he finished the day in "1 wheel drive" and the truck did well. Of course a lot of the skinny peddle helped.
R-Overland
Adventurer
OH wow. sorry to hear that.