Lumpskie's 1989 Grand Wagoneer Build

[Dr. Marneaus]

You a Skier?

If so and you ever hit Mt. Sunapee you should stay at my family's B&B right there at the base of the mountain

 

[lumpskie]

You a Skier?

If so and you ever hit Mt. Sunapee you should stay at my family's B&B right there at the base of the mountain

I've snow boarded a few times and any excuse to get in the mountains sounds good to me! If you get a chance, shoot me a link to your folks B&B. It might be fun to stop by just for a weekend in summer too.

 

[lumpskie]

So, my wife complained to me that the Wagoneer was leaking. At the time, we were just moving into our new house, so I told here to park it and I'd get to it later. 2 weeks later, I got around to looking at it. After I backed it out of the garage, I saw this:



It looked like ATF to me, so I climbed under it and started checking for loose bolts and wet connections on lines. I checked the two lines running from the transmission up through the radiator. All connection points were dry. Then I checked the transmission pan bolts (they had gotten loose once before) but they were all tight. I could see oily residue along the bottom of the jeep, so I tried to follow it up the side of the engine. I saw this:



On a whim, I checked the oil pan bolts... they were loose. So I snugged them up as best I could. After that, I continued looking for the source of my ATF leak. I couldn't find it. In the end I checked the level of my AFT, it was almost 2 pints low. Then I checked my oil. It was almost 2 quarts low. I topped both off, cleaned the oil patch on the floor and parked the Jeep.

I drove the Jeep around for the day and parked it and I've been checking under it for 3 days now... no drips. Could that red oily patch on the ground be oil that mixed with ATF? I'm pretty sure there's should be an ATF leak somewhere... what do you guys think?

 

[onemanarmy]

If its not leaking, its empty.

my 2 cents.

 

[jeepdreamer]

So, my wife complained to me that the Wagoneer was leaking. At the time, we were just moving into our new house, so I told here to park it and I'd get to it later. 2 weeks later, I got around to looking at it. After I backed it out of the garage, I saw this:



It looked like ATF to me, so I climbed under it and started checking for loose bolts and wet connections on lines. I checked the two lines running from the transmission up through the radiator. All connection points were dry. Then I checked the transmission pan bolts (they had gotten loose once before) but they were all tight. I could see oily residue along the bottom of the jeep, so I tried to follow it up the side of the engine. I saw this:



On a whim, I checked the oil pan bolts... they were loose. So I snugged them up as best I could. After that, I continued looking for the source of my ATF leak. I couldn't find it. In the end I checked the level of my AFT, it was almost 2 pints low. Then I checked my oil. It was almost 2 quarts low. I topped both off, cleaned the oil patch on the floor and parked the Jeep.

I drove the Jeep around for the day and parked it and I've been checking under it for 3 days now... no drips. Could that red oily patch on the ground be oil that mixed with ATF? I'm pretty sure there's should be an ATF leak somewhere... what do you guys think?

Maybe check the radiator and see if the antifreeze has atf in it?

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[lumpskie]

If its not leaking, its empty.

my 2 cents.

I checked under the jeep today and there's a palm sized oil patch under it... just to the driver's side of center line and about where the quarter panel meets the front door longitudinally.

Maybe check the radiator and see if the antifreeze has atf in it?

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Good call. I checked and it's clear of ATF... whew!

I'm wondering if this could be what's happening to me:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=180488

 

[Dr. Marneaus]

it definitely could be linkage, or any other point where something enters/exits the transmission. Also, your power steering fluid could be red but that would normally leak at the front.

Keep in mind you don't want transmission and oil pant bolts to be "TIGHT" you need them snug but that's it, otherwise you'll crush the gaskets.

P.S. I know you have a nice wag, but after NUMEROUS atempts to stop up the 3 or 4 leaks mine has, i now just keep cardboard under it.

 

[lumpskie]

it definitely could be linkage, or any other point where something enters/exits the transmission. Also, your power steering fluid could be red but that would normally leak at the front.

Keep in mind you don't want transmission and oil pant bolts to be "TIGHT" you need them snug but that's it, otherwise you'll crush the gaskets.

P.S. I know you have a nice wag, but after NUMEROUS atempts to stop up the 3 or 4 leaks mine has, i now just keep cardboard under it.

The more I think about replacing that seal, the longer the job sounds. I might take your advice and, for now, just put a catchment of some sort under it. Moving is a lot of work and I'm running out of gas.

Speaking of which, I might as well share.

I did some yard work last week. While I was doing it, I decided to take care of a lot of vines that were strangling the trees and bushes in the yard. I saw one vine on an old (maybe 150 year old or older) tree in the front yard. I had climbed 20 or 30 feet up the tree. I decided to pull it off the tree and see if the whole thing would come down. It sure did, falling on me as it broke loose. Well... it turns out that vine was poison ivy! So, the next morning, I woke up and couldn't really open my eyes. Beyond that about half my body was covered in the rash. It was so bad that Paula took me to the ER. They gave me some steroids and it has gotten a lot better. But 2 weeks out, I still have some rash on my arms and legs. This stuff is no joke!



So, other than nature trying to kill me, things are still going well at the house. I actually found some references to it online. Back in the early 1800s, it was called the Cogswell Tavern. After that, it was a boarding house called the Huntoon house. Some New Hampshire history books have pictures of the house in them.

Check out page 74 here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=P...nepage&q=cogswell tavern hampstead NH&f=false

So, I'm having fun learning about early American history as well as the history of the house. That's all for now. Here's a kind of neat picture I took of it the other evening:

 

[Comanche Scott]

Awesome house. :beer:
The history that house has seen makes you wish it could talk... during visiting hours only.

Scary story with the Poison Ivy.
You are right that stuff is no joke!.

 

[Zeiderman]

Poison ivy taught me to pee with no hands. The hard way, no pun intended.

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[chasespeed]

Dude. That sucks.

Welcome to New England.

I have major issues with the 3 leaf-death myself. I steer WAY clear of it.

Take care of yourself, and get better. I know it's hell.

Then, get to exploring......

Chase

 

[lumpskie]

Dude. That sucks.

Welcome to New England.

I have major issues with the 3 leaf-death myself. I steer WAY clear of it.

Take care of yourself, and get better. I know it's hell.

Then, get to exploring......

Chase

Haha, thanks man. Yeah, after this incident my wife said "I'm pretty sure nature is trying to kill you out here". I told her between discovering ticks and poison ivy for her, she owes me big time! But... now she has it. So, we suffer together! Really, I'm on the mend and she is turning a corner with it. After we recuperate a bit, I'm sure we'll want to get out more than we do now.

Glad to see that you still check the thread, btw!

 

[lumpskie]

Here's another non-wheeling post:

So, a friend from work invited me to the Hillsborough County Agricultural Fair this weekend. He helped a friend of his prep an older Dodge pickup to compete in the tractor pull competition. (Apparently, their rig was over 800hp) He figured that, since we both own full size jeeps (he has a '78 cherokee on 35s) that I'd get a kick out of it. He was right. So, the family and I went to the fair. Chunky had a great time and was really entertained by the horses... especially the draft horses. I'd never seen a horse pull competition and ended up getting watching that for a bit. It was pretty entertaining. We only watched the first half, but the horses were pulling over 7000 pounds by the time we walked away! It was pretty impressive!







After that, we watched the tractor pull competition. Again, this was a first for me. My friend brought ear protection for Chunky and it turned out that it was a must. (Chunky had even more fun watching this than the horses)

It was interesting to see an old Willy's pickup win the 2wd class:



Then we watched the 5800 pound modified 4wd class that his buddy had entered in. He ended up getting 2nd.



After that, we walked around the fair and did all the classic fair things. Wifey looked at various 4H booths and baking competitions. I ate BBQ. Then, we called it a day and took the long way home. Fun day.

 

[chasespeed]

Yeah, I follow it when I have time. Work is starting to mellow down a bit, but, now it's time to get the heating crap banged out in my house, get some more yard work done, build my fire pit, and somewhere in the top of the list, get this rear-end under the Jeep...

Never stops.


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[lumpskie]

Cool article about Ghinmi, the guy who races the black Wagoneer. Apparently, he ran a hemi powered, 11 second Cherokee this year at Hotrod Magazine's Drag Week!

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/greg...-jeep-is-not-your-typical-11-second-two-door/