Mechanic said might as well replace the engine if the timing chain needs replacement

tanglefoot

ExPoseur
That looks like a great overlanding platform! The 4wd had the 3RZ 2.7L, 2wd had the 2RZ 2.4L, both with timing chains. The 5VZ 3.4L V6 uses a timing belt. Only indication I've heard of for a chain needing replacement is excessive noise/rattle. Owner may have been following hearsay or was misinformed.

Mechanic's comment may have meant that the timing chain usually lasts as long as the engine (a long time), so if the chain needs replacement, the engine may be about due as well.
 

Use_the_2nd

Observer
Run as quickly as you can from your "mechanic" and never return.


This and tell him to GFY.

My last Tacoma came with a 3.4 @ 412,000 miles. It had a slight miss on #3 cyl, I swapped the coil and it was good to go. Strong compression and passed a leak down test within spec.
 

yfarm

Observer
The plastic guides wear and allow the chain to wear thru the cover allowing antifreeze in on some of the 4 cyl motors.
 

Doc_

Sammich!
The plastic guides wear and allow the chain to wear thru the cover allowing antifreeze in on some of the 4 cyl motors.

That's just a 22R issue. The issue was resolved with the 2/3RZ's return to double-row timing chains which prevents the chain stretching behind the wear to the guides and cover.
 

speedtre

Explorer
That is a great deal. That is a 2.7 and as stated previously it did not have the same timing chain issues as the earlier 2.4. I had that motor in my 1998 Ext. cab Tacoma I had from new and it had 200K miles on it when I sold it, had never let me down and I'm sure would have gone another 200K. For a standard cab like that I would prefer the 2.7 to the 3.4....just as reliable, plenty of power for that setup and better MPG. Hope you were able to buy it before someone else did.
 
Thank you for all the suggestions!
I did a test drive over the weekend and took a handful of pictures @ http://imgur.com/a/BYxu7

Now, I should have introduced myself a little better. I am not a truck expert.
I am not experienced with wheeling and have not done any hardcore 4x4 trails.

The rust of the roof doesn't make me worry too much.
What are those oil stops underneath? Something too worry about? (maybe a dub question)

I have driven 4x4-like SUVs (Honda fit, a prius, VW Golf, Jeep Wrangler, a random brand I can't remember in costa rica) up random dirt paths until I couldn't get any further with the car.
I like the idea of going somewhere that is really tough to get to, and I 'get it' in that I can see how I would love to do this more.
I already love camping and this just makes it more realistic for longer trips where I can't carry everything on my back.

That brings me to today. Having said all the above, I want to embark on a journey from WA state down to as far as I can go in south america (darien gap will be a ***** to plan the ferries).
I'd love to see Patagonia, or, is there something even further south from there? I want to explore. Wander.
At the end of the trip, I will sell the rig in South America to another traveller. Paperwork is tricky but can be done.

I am looking for a vehicle capable of doing so. From what I've read, you don't have to have a hardcore 4x4 rig to do so.
Some people go through south america in a normal beat-down sedan car. They can't make it up to the more off-the-beaten paths places and mostly stick to paved roads.
The majority of people, from what I've gathered, just take pretty much any 4x4 car (Monteros, Pathfinders, etc) and they can make it to ALMOST anywhere. I know that's vague.
There's probably another chunk that has more capable rigs, but I haven't read any exploits that make me think I MUST GET ONE.

So. Here are my worries:
1) Will this Tacoma make it that far down south without any major repairs that get us stranded.
I can do simple stuff like an oil change. I can get her tuned up (would definitely ask you guys for help/suggestions) before the trip.
But I'm not a mechanic. I won't be able to fix the car in the middle of nowhere with tools that I carry.

2) I am not a 4x4 expert. Maybe I'm getting in over my head going that far without someone more knowledgable/backup.

3) There's no AC and it's an old truck. Not really a big deal, just an annoyance.


The other option I am looking at is getting a Suzuki Vitara.
I have read that if you leave your vanity at the door, these little suckers will get you almost anywhere the big rigs can get you, and it will get a much better fuel efficiency. Something to consider when you are driving the length of a continent!
I can also get a much newer car (2007) with lower mileage(~80k) for the same price($8000).
Put one of these bad boys on the roof: http://www.autohomeus.com/rooftop/choose.php
Do some upgrades: tires, suspension?
Take out second row of seats and build in wooden locking shelves for storage & security.


Deep down, it comes down to the dilemma between these two options:
Option #1: Get the '98 Taco. It's ************ and it sounds ************. Should be tough.
But it's old and could break down. Will guzzle more gas, but it's worth it.
This is the fun car. But I'm not a 4x4 expert so I doubt I'll be doing any extreme stuff with it.

Option #2: Leave my vanity at the door and get the Vitara.
It seems like the responsible thing to do, be an adult, etc. But the Taco looks like so much fun!
Some Vitara's are not too shabby though. It might not get me everywhere that the Taco would, but, it wouldn't be too far off.

Thoughts?
 

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TheSweatyButcher

Adventurer
Buy something you are comfortable with.

If the tacoma checks out it would be perfect for what you want. Maybe you should take it somewhere to get checked out?
 

JasonRedwood

Explorer
Take it some where to get it checked out.
Looks like the steering rack boot may be leaking so it may need replacing or ru-building. The oil spot on the differential is most likely do to the crush washer was re-used when the fluid was changed last. They tend to leak if a new crush washer isn't used. Just my non-expert opinion.
 

tanglefoot

ExPoseur
I agree to get what you like.

A '98 Tacoma is not old at all. I consider that to be quite new (I drive a 1985). It's impossible to foresee the future, but that's a very reliable, proven platform and chances are it will make the trip (and many more) without a hitch. The 3RZ is quite fuel efficient. You should be able to average in the low 20s for MPG, depending on how it's loaded. Chances are, a 3RZ Tacoma and a Vitara will deliver similar fuel economy.

It's true that you don't need a 4wd at all to complete the trip, but there are other places you can access with one (such as beaches, mountain trails, etc). Definitely take some time to learn 4wd driving and recovery techniques before you depart. There are books, videos and courses available. Local 4wd clubs can be a help. Driver skill usually makes more of a difference than the vehicle in terms of where you can go safely.

There are plenty of trip reports from others who have completed the journey--you may want to browse some of them. Here are two that used 1st-generation 4runners (both 1987s).

http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...hread-87-4runner-built-for-epic-PanAm-journey

http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...way-San-Francisco-to-Ushuaia-in-an-87-4Runner

Since you mention you've driven a Prius, I also drive one (a 2nd-generation liftback) and if I were to embark on a long journey, I might be more tempted to take it than the 4wd camper. It literally gets 3X the fuel economy, is drop-dead reliable, has nice cargo capacity and can be slept in. It even does pretty well on sandy two-tracks.

Definitely select carefully when making modifications. Don't feel the need to make the rig LOOK like an expedition rig. What is an expedition rig? A rig that is used for expeditions. There's nothing in the definition that says it needs to be outfitted a certain way. Focus on maintenance items rather than modifications. Only change what really needs to be changed for reliable, functional operation.
 
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TheSweatyButcher

Adventurer
I had been hunting for a stock single cab tacoma in my area for awhile. I looked at a few carbureted trucks but wanted something with EFI. I came across a truck that I saw a lot of potential in so I checked it out even though it did not meet my stock criteria. It was very clean has tons of storage and a roof top tent can be mounted easily. I weighed the good with the bad and pulled the trigger on it. So much for being low key.

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If that truck is not the right one I'd try and buy the wildernest off it if you can get it for a deal.
 

Doc_

Sammich!
Take it some where to get it checked out.
Looks like the steering rack boot may be leaking so it may need replacing or ru-building. The oil spot on the differential is most likely do to the crush washer was re-used when the fluid was changed last. They tend to leak if a new crush washer isn't used. Just my non-expert opinion.

Absolutely.
Never buy a used vehicle without a trusted mechanic's thorough inspection and if you can afford it, a leakdown test. That's the best way to assess the health of the truck.
 

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