Medic Bags

[Yudda]

Hi guys,

I just recently went to SHOT in Vegas. While checking out all the new gear i met Doc at MPAC Springtail solutions.

Basically ... MOLLE for your trucks.

anyway...i wanted to try out one of his Molle aluminum plates for my 110....he showed me these:


http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...102904-new-mpac-stat-molle-bags-rip-away.html

i purchased two Countycomm bags recently and i planned on mounting them on my rear door.

But with these they mount to the truck and the bag rips away if needed quickly !




When i saw these i immediately mentioned to him that it looks like he got the idea from the high end IFAK pouches that are out there...and he said...EXACTLY !


anyway...check it out.

http://www.springtailsolutions.com/gpage3.html


Rob

PS: I have to mention that he did give me one at SHOT and so far... it been great. Hell i used it as my "2nd carry on" on the flight home.

 

[ThomD]

Don't worry about it: There isn't a medic bag or case in the world that's saved anyone's life. My 'official' field bag is a backpack (Kifaru Navigator), my 'doctors bag' is a black 'bail-out bag' from Countycomm.

Whatever works for you and gets the job done is fine. For the first few years of my prehospital medical life I used a plastic food container to hold my first aid kit...

That's funny because my current "kit" is in a a big plastic box. The issues I see are - it doesn't close well so stuff falls out, there is zero organization and it doesn't look cool. (Admit it that's why we buy some of the things we buy.) I'll can live with it for a while longer.

 

[Dennis David]

Just received my Ferno Professional ALS Bag off of eBay. Stealthy this bags is not but I got a good deal (1/2 price) on one that was part of an order but never used.

This bag is huge and I know it's over-kill but what the heck.

 

[VETTE60]

I use this pack when working wildland fires, and then zip off the web gear harness to have a pretty handy travel pak. I can fit a pretty good assortment of ALS gear in it. not sure about expedition, but it is great stowed in my cruiser and on my back. i think it is more useable than any other I have found

http://www.truenorthgear.com/product_detail.php?path=0_1&p_id=32

 

[Youngunner]

We use nothing but Statpacks on the ambulance adn they're great. My ambulance company just picked me up the same medic pack that Vette suggested above for when I'm doing volunteer SAR work. We'll see how it handles some extreme Nevada terrain!

 

[Deleted member 9101]

I carry a blackhawk bag, and it seems to work well. Holds plenty of supplies, and if packed properly it only takes a second to grab what I need. I pre pack gallon zip lock bags with every thing I'll need to deal with a casuality so all I have to do is pull it out and dump it. I have all my air way, chest seals, and hemorage control in them and it has seemed to work great. the nice thing is I can treat one casuality and toss one to the guy next to me and talk them through it as well.

Probably a different case for civilian trauma, but I am sure the same concept can be applied.


http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Special-Ops-Medical-Back-Pack,875,1371.htm

 

[Scott B.]

We use nothing but Statpacks on the ambulance adn they're great. My ambulance company just picked me up the same medic pack that Vette suggested above for when I'm doing volunteer SAR work. We'll see how it handles some extreme Nevada terrain!

Youngunner - which model(s) Statpacks do you use?

I am leaning toward the True North bag for my expedition med kit.

 

[yaknowthatguy]

in the last 20 years I've used most everything that has come along. there are a lot of ups and downs for bags. I've been a physician assistant for just shy of 15 years, was a medic for several before that, and a firefighter the entire time. I've been lucky enough to evaluate a lot of products out there. I haven't found any one "perfect", but there's a lot of good amongst the not-so-good, and it really means figuring out your needs prior to purchase (vehicle only, shoulder bag, backpack, need refrigeration, do you need it to last forever or just evaluation period, etc etc).

My favorites were the Pacific Emergency Products ALS bags. Sadly PEP quit manufacturing bags in favor of ballistic sheets and body armor. You may find them out there on a deal, and I highly recommend them. Take a look on ebay there may still be some floating around. Easy to use/organize and built to last.

I've used Thomas Packs. Built like a tank, essentially waterproof, poorly designed, and VERY uncomfortable if you have to hump them very far. Can be overpacked quite easily, I've seen idiots pack them to over 60# of inappropriate gear. They will last long enough for you to hate them then pass them on for your children to do the same.

Conterra bags are typically built well, but I haven't grooved on their organization necessarily, a couple of bags have seemed a little wonky - YMMV.

Ferno's bags are pretty good, as are Iron Duck's. Not been thrilled with the zipper function on alot of the Iron Ducks I've used. Overall good bang for the buck. Not a big fan of the slick-sided ones that Iron Duck makes, they tear requiring replacement under OSHA (if you're using them for work).

I've had one StatPack item worth a damn, and it's their drug module (clamshell style, see through top, drug lock on the zipper). Most everything else I've seen/used is lightweight crap worth about one trip. YMMV.

Blackhawk makes top of the line gear in general, but I haven't had a chance to see much of their stuff (I have a bit of web gear and a couple of slings from them, impressed with quality....but you pay for it).

The new ALS backpack from 5.11 (model 84 I think) looks pretty good, but I want to see it in person to get a feel for quality and actual usability. It's probably going to be my next bag.

The Gall's brand bags are generally, IMO, junk. or at least were a few years ago.

Most commercially available prepacked first aid kits dont give you what you need, I concur wiht SunTzu's Nephew on this.

Dont be afraid of carrying two bags - can help weight distribution if you have to hump them somewhere, and can help with overall convenience of packing too. Depending on how their service is set up, it's not uncommon for medics to have three bags - trauma, medical/drugs, airway. Stay flexible.

Lots of my work has been in rather austere, isolated environments - somewhat like the trips we take. My experience is that trauma is a factor far less than medical problems - you're not as likely to hack off your leg as you are to develop chest pain, pneumonia, pyelonephritis, etc. This is where it starts to get tricky, you can get over your head pretty quickly due to a knowledge gap even if you have the right tools. Most kits, especially the prepack ones, are pointed right at trauma, and have little medical capacity in them. medical equipment and knowledge should be as important as food and water, but it is limited by realistic time commitment and money. Learn all you can, train to that level regularly, and Be Prepared. Consider a SPOT too....cheap insurance if something bad happens.

 

[Mamontof]

I've had good service from Conterra products, and have a Responder-II bag in each vehicle. My big bag is a Kifaru Navigator with E&E attached, however...

I have tried a lot of different bags, and I'm still looking for the right one.

Right One that Only what you need and your acknowledgement of things what

and hay to use some

Nothing personal only US Cavalry provide more less pro-pack http://http://www.uscav.com/SearchMan.aspx?Man=583&TabID=137

http://http://www.uscav.com/ZoomImage.aspx?CatID=137&ImageURL=/prodinfo/enlarged/36733L.jpg

 

[Scott B.]

I ended up getting the Firefly Medic by True North. All I can say is, what a bag!

It appears to be very well made and sturdy. I think (and hope) it will hold up for many years. There are many pockets and compartments - it's taking me a while to get it organized like I want. (There is even a water bladder compartment.)

While I don't look forward to needing this, I look forward to using it when it is needed.

 

[Mamontof]

I ended up getting the Firefly Medic by True North. All I can say is, what a bag!

To be clear - you purchase http://http://www.truenorthgear.com/product_detail.php?path=1_1&p_id=32 to seat in a truck in case of emergency or short walk distance ?

 

[Scott B.]

To be clear - you purchase http://http://www.truenorthgear.com/product_detail.php?path=1_1&p_id=32 to seat in a truck in case of emergency or short walk distance ?

Yes - that's the one.

My reasoning is if something happens to someone while we're out on a two-track, it would be much easier to hike/navigate around trucks to the victim with my arms free. For a victim that is only 20 feet away, it doesn't matter one way or the other. But, if you have to hike any distance, I think this bag will be better than many others.

Also, this bag is great for search and rescue.

And, it makes a great personal emergency/survival/grab-and-go bag.

 

[ltngaines]

Im with Fireman78. Hard case is great. I have all my stuff in a 5:11 bag. I work for a fire dept near Chicago. "Real big expedition town" flat as can be,most of the time I use my equip for side of the road car crashes hardly ever wilderness mishaps. but I will be changing all my equip, ALS/BLS to a hard case.

 

[Youngunner]

Forgot about this thread! I am very pleased with my TrueNorth pack, and it has served me well so far. I have that thing full to the brim with medical equipment. More than your average bear because I can work as a Paramedic on my SAR team. I keep the large removable medical bag separated and only take it when i need it (medications can't be too hot or cold). The rest of the pack system keeps my survival equipment organized and lives in my truck.

I will be looking to get the radio chest harness and O2 bag:

 

[Mamontof]

Yes - that's the one.

My reasoning is if something happens to someone while we're out on a two-track, it would be much easier to hike/navigate around trucks to the victim with my arms free. For a victim that is only 20 feet away, it doesn't matter one way or the other. But, if you have to hike any distance, I think this bag will be better than many others.

Also, this bag is great for search and rescue.

And, it makes a great personal emergency/survival/grab-and-go bag.

That great , only in case of pro activity it not so fast inaf relise a strap and asses to medicaments / you lousing time instead grab what you need

My choice will be have that http://http://www.cobratactical.com/SOTECH-BACKPACK-MEDICALTRAUMA--MPMD_p_4278.html
http://http://www.cobratactical.com/SOTECH-SLIMLINE-MEDICAL-BACKPACK--SLIVER_p_4330.html