maclean216
Observer
Its time for new tires for me as well. Looking at these same tires. What do you guys think about the Interco Trxus MTs? The 34/12.5 R16 is what I am looking at. It will probably be these or the GY MTR.
Mud TIRES: BFGoodrich KM2, Goodyear MTR Kevlar, or Swamper SSR
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01tundra
Explorer
KM2's get my vote.
Might also want to take a look at Toyo Open Country M/T's and Cooper STT's?
I absolutely hated my MT/R's w/ Kevlar.
My current 40" KM2's are smooth up to 80 MPH and have never had balancing weights on the wheels. They do great in the rain, snow, mud, rock, etc. My only complaint is I wish the sidewalls were a little tougher. I've ran a lot of different tires on my rig and for a daily driver the KM2's are the best compromise for me.
Might also want to take a look at Toyo Open Country M/T's and Cooper STT's?
I absolutely hated my MT/R's w/ Kevlar.
My current 40" KM2's are smooth up to 80 MPH and have never had balancing weights on the wheels. They do great in the rain, snow, mud, rock, etc. My only complaint is I wish the sidewalls were a little tougher. I've ran a lot of different tires on my rig and for a daily driver the KM2's are the best compromise for me.
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xcmountain80
Expedition Leader
I'd say stick with the SSR's if your happy with them and the type of driving you do warrants it or go with the KM2's. I don't have any feedback in my circles about the new MTR kevlar so I'll leave that one alone. The KM2 will be quieter and than the SSR but won't have as much mud shedding ability given the tighter tread block spacing. Though this all becomes irrelevant if you can't spin the tires to clean them anyway (but you knew that). I want to say the KM2 will last longer but the last set of SSR (285) I had lasted about 35K on our light vehicles (not as light as a jeep but lighter than a Land Cruiser or similar) tires seem to last longer. Sooooo if you looking to get away from the agressive but functional SSR go for the KM2. I haven't taken price into account, what sizes are available in each to fit your needs?
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brianjwilson
Some sort of lost...
Can you elaborate?
alexrex20
Explorer
the biggest i could absolutely fit is a 34in tire, so the 33.9in SSR (285/75-16 same size as you) is very appealing to me. but of course, the SSR is also worlds heavier than the KM2 and MTR (also 285/75-16 but both measure to 33.1in).
pricewise, they're all just about the same. if i factor in state taxes for local purchases or shipping for online, it's about $220-250 a tire, with the MTR Kevlar the most expensive.
all 3 tires are definitely aggressive enough for me, so i guess it comes down to longevity and street manners. in that case, i think i need to spring for the KM2, but the MTR Kevlar is so tempting, if only because not many people have them; and everyone and their grandma has KM2s.
I have a friend that owns a tire shop and they have been having really good luck with Hankook Dynapro MT. He sales a ton of them to the oilfield company's and they have been getting great wear out of them. You might check them out
http://www.offroaders.com/reviewbox/showproduct.php?product=301
http://www.offroaders.com/reviewbox/showproduct.php?product=301
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Sean VHA #60013
Adventurer
I have been running the KM2's since last summer on my '89 Dodge W250 Cummins, 255/85r16s & E-rated :victory:
The tires have done great in Ice, Snow, Mud, and have worn very well. They are also very quiet on the road for Mud Terrains. I will probably go with them on the next truck I need to replace tires on :coffeedrink:
The tires have done great in Ice, Snow, Mud, and have worn very well. They are also very quiet on the road for Mud Terrains. I will probably go with them on the next truck I need to replace tires on :coffeedrink:
01tundra
Explorer
They took a lot of weight to balance, some upwards of 20 ozs., on the same wheels I just removed the exact same size KM2 (37"x12.50"x17") off that had been running smooth as silk with no weight for almost a year.
Even with weight they shook.
On the road, they started out as quiet as the KM2's, but after about 2k miles they started getting really load.
Off road they packed up with mud and would not clear.
Off road in muddy conditions they had terrible lateral support on rocks, the entire truck would slide sideways off rocks at once, where as with KM2's they will stick to the muddy rocks. And yes....the 4.7-L has amble power to spin them and clean them out, but unfortunately it took a stick and manual labor to clean them.
The minute I put them on, the truck immediately started pulling to the passenger side fairly hard. The day after we arrived back home I took the turds off and threw my KM2's back on and they truck quit pulling to the passenger side and was back to riding smooth with no balancing......The "pull" was in the same direction that all four had their long tread bars angled toward....go figure!
A few months later I installed a set of 40" KM2's, no weight, smooth as silk, still no pull to the passenger side.
After an extended period at around 70 MPH on the interstate we started smelling a burning rubber smell, pulled over and all four tires were hot and sticky - thanks to the lovely tread pattern I guess the tires were trying to destroy themselves.
During our trip, I spoke to everyone there (running the same tire on various vehicles and various sizes) and they all had experienced some of the same characteristics.
Even though I didn't cut a sidewall during our trip, I witnessed five in a row cut on one obstacle, and two sets of Irok radials walk right up it.
They did not work for me and will never be on any vehicle I own ever again.
Don't get me wrong, KM2's aren't perfect either, none are. But the only gripe I have about the KM2 is that in extremely aggressive rocks the sidewalls are not strong enough.
Even when the KM2's pack up with mud, they continue to keep biting and moving my truck in the right direction........
All that being said, that's just my experiences on my truck, you may try them and love them.....who knows. I've talked with friends out West that love the MT/R's.....me.....not so much. I didn't like my old style MT/R's either, cut a side wall the 1st trip out years ago, but I can say the originals were a helluva lot better than these new ones with their "confused" tread pattern.
They tended to pack up with mud and keep it with them, hence no lateral traction -
They did "OK" in the complete dry though -
Call me partial, but for my rig, KM2's just work better -
Even though I've heard people comment that BFG's suck in the snow, mine flat get it in the snow, this year was the 1st time I got to experience them in the snow and I was extremely happy, may be my rig's weight....dunno -
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01tundra
Explorer
There could be something to that.........
The only person I've heard bad mouth KM2's is me, and that's strictly because I wish they had a stronger sidewall.......but of all the tires out there I have to choose from, they're still hands down the best choice for my truck......
Here's how my past three sets of tires have gone if it's any indication -
37" KM2's - Brand new set given to me free and ran for over a year, even though I swore I would put my Toyo Open Country M/T's back on immediately after the trip because yes....they are that good, but so are the KM2's, so the Toyo's got sold when we got home.
37" MT/R's w/ Kevlar - Brand new set given to me, taken off the day after our 7-day trip and put the worn KM2's back on. Sold the set of five MT/R's a few days later for $800 with 2,500 miles on them just to get them out of my garage and out of my sight.
40" KM2's - Purchased a used set of five for $2k out of my pocket and still rocking them to date.
Next set - Who knows, if nothing else emerges in the market, another set of 40" KM2's, even though $605 each is absolutely ridiculous (I will take this moment to say SCREW YOU BFG for making an awesome tire and then abusing the fact by overpricing the hell out of them
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Aggie
Adventurer
You might want to look into a set of the new Pitbull Rocker Radials. I just bought a set of them in 37x12.5x16.5 variety and going to mount them up next week to my Tacoma. They come in a 41.5x13.50x17 that would probably look pretty good on that Tundra.
I also second the opinion on MTR's w/Kevlar I have a set of 315/70/17's on my Power Wagon and HATE them. Loud, rough, caused a deathwobble under 50 PSI, uneven tread wear, and pull to one side. As soon as I can get them off I am going to.
I also second the opinion on MTR's w/Kevlar I have a set of 315/70/17's on my Power Wagon and HATE them. Loud, rough, caused a deathwobble under 50 PSI, uneven tread wear, and pull to one side. As soon as I can get them off I am going to.
01tundra
Explorer
I've actually been talking to Pitbull some lately. If you get a chance sometime, let me know what they measure out mounted up, my only concern is that they used to run a little small.
Hilldweller
SE Expedition Society
I have the MTR/k's in 285/75-16 ---- best tires I've ever used.
Not perfect; none are. Only adequate in mud, great on rocks, and great on the street.
If I toss a weight they wobble like crazy though.
Not perfect; none are. Only adequate in mud, great on rocks, and great on the street.
If I toss a weight they wobble like crazy though.
brianjwilson
Some sort of lost...
Thanks for the response about the MT/Rs.
I haven't heard many negative reports from them before now. But different rigs and different terrain make a big difference.
I love my KM2s as well, and also found them to work great in snow and ice. I have the same complaint as you (and many others) that the sidewalls are too soft. I guess it is a good thing they are wearing so well, I have plenty of time to figure out what my next tire will be.
I haven't heard many negative reports from them before now. But different rigs and different terrain make a big difference.
I love my KM2s as well, and also found them to work great in snow and ice. I have the same complaint as you (and many others) that the sidewalls are too soft. I guess it is a good thing they are wearing so well, I have plenty of time to figure out what my next tire will be.