my fg/camper pre purchase plan "101"

[Gold Boy]

You can buy a Dodge 4x4 4500 crew cab, cab and chassis with 16,500 gvw for less money and get a better truck and cummins diesel.

could you please start another thread, as we are getting off subject....

thanks :26_7_2:

 

[805gregg]

I get a big rig truck trader mag. I see lots of Mutsu****ys with 110,000 miles and rebuilt engines.

 

[charlieaarons]

I get a big rig truck trader mag. I see lots of Mutsu****ys with 110,000 miles and rebuilt engines.

And what year are these trucks? The average delivery truck driven 200 miles/working day will accumulate 50,000 miles/year. Is it possible the odometers have been turned back?
I can guarantee you a 98 Mitsubishi (that's how it's spelled on this forum) has not been sitting in a driveway or parking lot 98% of the time, which is how a 10 year old vehicle gets only 110,000 miles.
If these vehicles in Truck Trader are 2 years old then I will believe your claim.

Charlie

 

[Robthebrit]

This is a thread about a mitsu camper build, start another thread if you think they have problems or want to compare it to a dodge or any other truck. I don't drive a mitsu either but I am really interested in these builds. These folks have choosen this platform for their own reasons, let them get on with it. Cost and power are typically not the the only deciding factors when you are going to live it full time.

I think the Fuso is a great truck, great world wide service and parts network. It would be at the top of my list for a US built camper.

Rob

 

[FusoFG]

I get a big rig truck trader mag. I see lots of Mutsu****ys with 110,000 miles and rebuilt engines.

I'm surprised by the comment 'with rebuilt' engines. That doesn't match my personal experience nor what the service manager at the dealer says.

I believe 250,000 plus is more realistic before any mechanical work, though I know commercial vehicles are abused more than a personal vehicle might be.

Mitsubishi cars and SUV's don't have a reputation for quality and reliability but they are made by a separate and unrelated company than the company that makes the Fuso.

 

[805gregg]

I get a big rig truck trader mag. I see lots of Mutsu****ys with 110,000 miles and rebuilt engines.

Sorry my mistake those were Isuzu's

 

[Gold Boy]

Sorry my mistake those were Isuzu's

good now that we have cleared that little issue up......

i justed wanted say thanks for the awesome detailed replies, in this thread....

yeehaa :gunt:

 

[Bajaroad]

Factory Singles?

Does Fuso N.A. approve any super singles? I talked with Darrin in the spring and so far they do not approve and for FG/FE or FM series.

The example of Auzzie Cantors is interesting but these trucks always seem to be pretty light weight (as is the one in the picture). My camper is usually loaded close to MAX GVWR on any extended trip. I know at least one FG that is above GVWR empty!

A broken hub in the middle of NWT would end up as an incredibly expensive nightmare. If you are a commercial outfit or a weekend warrior then the options are different.

Tom

Here is a picture taken at a Truck Show in the UK. Apparently Fuso is offering single rear wheels in the UK, or at least a tease. This Canter has a wider rear axle and larger wheels.
http://www.4x4uk.org/b2evolution/index.php?cat=20 (scroll down)

Amesz in Australia said they have been well over GVWR on singles. The super singles are a $7000AUD option - ouch.

-Brent

 

[charlieaarons]

Note both front and rear wheels are mounted the same way. It must have a wider rear axle, if it tracks evenly with singles. The Australian pictures and Darrin's FM have the the rear single wheel flipped to maintain sufficient track width. Which with the missing inner wheel puts excessive stress on the rear wheel bearings.
On an after market 4X4 conversion like Jay Shapiro's sometimes a front axle can be selected with the correct width to run a wheel (with zero or small offset) that will keep rear track about the same as with duals and also track closely in the front, and maintain or slightly increase track width in the front.
All of which isn't usually possible converting a DRW factory 4X4 to SRW, even with flippable wheels.

Charlie

 

[jhrodd]

They appear to be producing a crew cab version of the FG now. It also looks like the step in the frame is gone.

 

[kerry]

They appear to be producing a crew cab version of the FG now. It also looks like the step in the frame is gone.

Hasn't this been available in non-US markets in the past?
Is the step under the back of the crew cab?

 

[jhrodd]

I didn't think the 2006 and up crew cab was produced in 4x4. The older models were though.

 

[Bajaroad]

Note both front and rear wheels are mounted the same way. It must have a wider rear axle, if it tracks evenly with singles. The Australian pictures and Darrin's FM have the the rear single wheel flipped to maintain sufficient track width. Which with the missing inner wheel puts excessive stress on the rear wheel bearings.
On an after market 4X4 conversion like Jay Shapiro's sometimes a front axle can be selected with the correct width to run a wheel (with zero or small offset) that will keep rear track about the same as with duals and also track closely in the front, and maintain or slightly increase track width in the front.
All of which isn't usually possible converting a DRW factory 4X4 to SRW, even with flippable wheels.

Charlie

Charlie,
If someone was willing to live with the added hub offset on the rear, the single wheel design (wheel offset) I posted earlier would allow the rear wheels (flipped) to track perfectly with the front.

-Brent

 

[haven]

can't hide from ExPo readers

Kudos to Brent and Jeffrey for spotting these clues about future Fuso products.

The story on the British 4x4 web site accompanying the show photo says that railway companies are interested in a Fuso equipped with steel wheels for use on the rails. That means equal length axles in front and rear, at least as an option.

The photo of the Fuso at the British show makes me think it's for display only. The front tire looks like it has interference problems with the front fender. Maybe it's the camera perspective. The tires definitely are wider and taller than the 235/80R16 we see in North America.

The page that Jeffrey found is on the Fuso corporate world-wide site. The reference number for the crew-cab 4x4 is FG 83PE6 W. I can't find any mention of the number online, so I think it's a new model.

In Fuso-speak, the "W" is used to refer to "crew cab". The comparable model in the FE (4x2) series is FE 83PE6 W, so the 83PE6 designation is shared between the two models. This makes me think that the chassis and engine are the same. In other words, no more step-down frame.

Chip Haven

 

[kerry]

This chassis page doesn't show any step down options for the FG. It also says the chassis will be more rigid. Don't know how those posted dimensions compare to the previous dimensions of the chassis rails.

http://www.mitsubishi-fuso.com/en/products/truck/7_8series/chassis/index.html?a2