Need some help finding a part.

[39Ronin]

I need some help identifying a potential replacement for my Japanese Mitsubishi Jeep. It is a 1991 Mitsu Jeep, made to the specs of a 59 Willys. It is said to have a Dana 27f ront axel? I have a torn boot and need to find out if this was available locally on other Jeeps, Scouts ect...

Excuse my ignorance for the proper terms, dust cover? CV boot? Knuckle sweep seal? not to sure what to call it. Have look here:

Should look like this:

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But looks like this:

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This is the Jeep:

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Cheers,
Neil

 

[motomech]

AMC 4x4 Salvage
6741 West Belmont
Glendale, AZ 85303
(602) 937-5899 - (800) 882-5337
VERY helpful. Reasonable prices. They seem to
have a good supply of stuff.
In Tucson they are at:
1351 W Prince Road
Tucson, AZ
(602) 293-0929

Willys Jeep Parts
P.O. Box 11468
Yuma, AZ 85366-9468
602-343-9216 office
602-343-1200 fax
Specializing in Willys overland
trucks: 1/4 tons, station wagons,
panel/deliveries, pick-ups, forward
control trucks.
Original parts, complete vehicles,
repair/service kits, seals, gaskets,
bearings, publications (Owner's, Service,
Technical, Parts Lists,Maintenance),
hardware, body parts.

Willys Works
1933 W. Gardner Lane
Tucson, AZ
602-888-5082
specializes in old Jeep parts and stuff.

 

[motomech]

All places ive used when building my 55' willys pick-up

 

[39Ronin]

Right On! Thanks for the leads. I will give them shout, what should I call that boot?

 

[motomech]

http://www.public.asu.edu/~grover/willys/ ...another good page

Id call em Birfield joint dust covers.

 

[Root Moose]

I've never seen one of those dust covers on a closed knuckle Dana axle.

I have a Dana 27 from a flattie out behind the barn I can go look at when I get home but I don't remember seeing anything like that on them.

Are we sure that the Mitsubishi still runs Dana axles and not Aisin (i.e. Toyota, Suzuki, etc.) derived axles? That looks a lot like a Suzuki axle to me but that may be the fogs of time playing tricks in the old brain pan.

Got a picture of the differential itself? Is it a removable third member or a standard Dana style non removable differential?

Now I'm curious.

 

[Root Moose]

BTW, while both the Suzuki and the Toyota use that kind of a king-pin, closed knuckle I've never seen either with a dust cover like that. They normally have a "felt" that is sandwiched between the mounting plate and the knuckle itself to wipe the bell.

 

[SeaRubi]

2000+ model year land rover discovery's use a dust boot like that to protect the swivel housing. i don't know the dimensions of them but it might be easier to source from somewhere like British Pacific or Atlantic British.

 

[39Ronin]

Thanks alot! That is what I love about our community, you don't get flammed :ar15: for asking questions here.

Root Moose here is a pic of the whole diff, it is a 10 bolt:

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[hutchman]

Sorry, but I am not going to be any help at all on your question. I am wondering if it is possible to import one of those into the states? Anyone know?

Sorry for the hijack!

 

[39Ronin]

Yes you sure can, it just has to be 25 years old as per the Us import rules. There are some pretty low mileage good quality units in Japan. Here is a site so you can see some, the prices are a little inflated but it will give you an idea. These ones are 25 years and older Diesels.

http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan_car/mitsubishi/jeep/?eid=1&jid=1983&****=2&fd=

 

[hutchman]

Thanks!

 

[Root Moose]

That is definitely a Dana axle - it's ugly enough.

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Took a look at my axle behind the barn.

It is really old and crufty, probably hasn't been under a Jeep in many decades.

I see no signs of a rubber bell. It is the same construction otherwise, and I'm guessing it had some kind of "felts" to wipe the bell as I would have expected to see some hints of the remnants of the rubber otherwise. The only non-metal peice that I can see sandwiched into the mix is really thin, almost looks like a diff cover gasket. I'm not going to spend any time taking this ancient axle apart to verify. It's fine where it is as lawn art.

So, have you been able to source the rubber piece yet? If you haven't maybe try some of the places that are importing the Mitus Jeeps into the US.

Failing that, you could possibly retrofit to use the "normal" CJ style felts? I'm of two minds about whether that rubber boot is a good idea. There is no way to seal the end of the boot to keep water out so it is inevitable that water will make its way in and rust the bell. At least I don't see a proper surface to clamp the end of the boot to the axle tube.

That said, it is a neat little detail...with enough regular maintenance if wouldn't be that big of a deal, service/inspect after every run where there is a water crossing.

I guess it depends on whether you want to keep it OEM stock or not.