New 70 series
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charlieaarons
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The “New Landcruiser”. 2.8L 4cyl turbo, about 5 hp and 5 ft-lb more than V8 4.5L turbo diesel.
In Hilux does ~29mpg, new owner hopes for 23-24.
Comes only with 6 speed automatic.
In Hilux does ~29mpg, new owner hopes for 23-24.
Comes only with 6 speed automatic.
charlieaarons
Explorer
Price about US$47k
charlieaarons
Explorer
Their V8 diesel cruiser is blueprinted, chipped, does 170kph and gets marginally better mileage than my 12 metric ton Unimog camper - 10mpg!
nickw
Adventurer
So all new 70's have that smaller TD and auto....are they phasing out the 1HZ / H55 combo? Lots of plastic under that hood for a 70....
charlieaarons
Explorer
The H55 went away many years ago. Yes, the engine options now are: 4.5L V8 turbo diesel, the new 2.8; and I’m not sure whether the 4.2L petrol L6 has been replaced by a 4.5L V8 or not.
I asked Kai Gorn if he thought the 6 speed automatic had a low enough 1st gear, he answered in the affirmative. It’s a demo/loaner from the Windhoek dealership just for a few days, but he did a little offroading around the campground they run. The place where I store my U500 camper is quite an operation.
Met some Italians fulltiming in a big MAN 4x4. Met some Germans who just replaced the entire gearbox in their U1300. And all the Mog people were fascinated with my 9 channel gearbox temperature monitoring system (portals, diffs, trans&transfer, engine oil).
Below is an Iveco Daily camper stored in the stall right next to mine.
I asked Kai Gorn if he thought the 6 speed automatic had a low enough 1st gear, he answered in the affirmative. It’s a demo/loaner from the Windhoek dealership just for a few days, but he did a little offroading around the campground they run. The place where I store my U500 camper is quite an operation.
Met some Italians fulltiming in a big MAN 4x4. Met some Germans who just replaced the entire gearbox in their U1300. And all the Mog people were fascinated with my 9 channel gearbox temperature monitoring system (portals, diffs, trans&transfer, engine oil).
Below is an Iveco Daily camper stored in the stall right next to mine.
nickw
Adventurer
I thought they still used the H55 with the 1HZ is some models....maybe I am thinking H150/151?
charlieaarons
Explorer
Yes, latest iteration is H152?
HUMMER/Expeditions
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Explain to me something, what’s the fascination with Germans and those 20 ft tall trucks ?
This thing can’t follow me 40 yards without rolling over,
Last week crossing mazurka canyon in Sierra Nevada region there was one of those tall Things with German plates, it was struggling to go even a tiny obstacles we thought he was gonna roll , we were forced to be stuck behind it few miles.
Maybe in Europe overlanding is what RVs do in USA 🤷♂️
charlieaarons
Explorer
Mine is 11’8.5”, not 20’ tall. Shorter than a class C with enormous AC on top, they usually have at least 2, along with 1-200ah batteries which makes it useless off grid.
In 18 years I’ve had to detour exactly twice due to height in 114k miles traveling through NA, Australia, southern África and to Mongolia and back. One time was due to daughters desire to go to downtown campground in Strasbourg to walk to a Michelin restaurant. They let us in through an alternate gate.
Come follow me through Central Kalahari Game Reserve or up to the Kunene in NW Namibia, in a class C or a Marathon Prevost.
In 18 years I’ve had to detour exactly twice due to height in 114k miles traveling through NA, Australia, southern África and to Mongolia and back. One time was due to daughters desire to go to downtown campground in Strasbourg to walk to a Michelin restaurant. They let us in through an alternate gate.
Come follow me through Central Kalahari Game Reserve or up to the Kunene in NW Namibia, in a class C or a Marathon Prevost.
HUMMER/Expeditions
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12 ft tall ? 🤦♂️🤣
I value my family and friends life sir,
The rule of physics says to keep center of gravity in balance, every ft of vertical hight requires 1.5 ft of horizontal width increase
so your RV being 12 ft tall it should be 18ft wide in order to keep it’s balance at 15 degrees angle,
that number is for neutral weight object not even loaded.
I admire your bravery and optimism ❤️
I value my family and friends life sir,
The rule of physics says to keep center of gravity in balance, every ft of vertical hight requires 1.5 ft of horizontal width increase
so your RV being 12 ft tall it should be 18ft wide in order to keep it’s balance at 15 degrees angle,
that number is for neutral weight object not even loaded.
I admire your bravery and optimism ❤️
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charlieaarons
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Your “physics” calculations fail to account for motor, drivetrain etc being much lower than half the height; frame, fuel tanks; winches; water tanks in camper, batteries all are at bottom of camper. Or lower.
So, the COG is ~1.3m high, and the track is 1.97m wide.
Therefore, the tip over angle is roughly 35 degrees.
You could build a tower of balsa wood to a height of 11’8” and a diameter of 2” on top of a Smart car. Ignoring air resistance (it would of course break), would that make it fall over?
If you put a 1000 lb lead weight on top, it would become tippy.
Have ever heard the mathematical term “integral”?
Unicat has tested their vehicles over and over again on a real life tilt table (large hydraulic lift plates), restrained for safety. 35 degrees is a real life figure.
So, the COG is ~1.3m high, and the track is 1.97m wide.
Therefore, the tip over angle is roughly 35 degrees.
You could build a tower of balsa wood to a height of 11’8” and a diameter of 2” on top of a Smart car. Ignoring air resistance (it would of course break), would that make it fall over?
If you put a 1000 lb lead weight on top, it would become tippy.
Have ever heard the mathematical term “integral”?
Unicat has tested their vehicles over and over again on a real life tilt table (large hydraulic lift plates), restrained for safety. 35 degrees is a real life figure.
charlieaarons
Explorer
Arc tan (.985/1.3) ~= 37 degrees
Your “assumption” that ρ(h), density function of entire vehicle with respect to height off the ground, is a constant is (to be kind and diplomatic) the most ridiculous engineering assumption I’ve seen in a very long time.
Your “assumption” that ρ(h), density function of entire vehicle with respect to height off the ground, is a constant is (to be kind and diplomatic) the most ridiculous engineering assumption I’ve seen in a very long time.
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HUMMER/Expeditions
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Just in case you forgot how real 35 degrees looks like
Imagine 12 ft tall vehicle on 35 degrees side way tilt,
That’s being said, if you guys are happy that’s all it matters,
Just don’t block the trials by driving half a mile an hour
Imagine 12 ft tall vehicle on 35 degrees side way tilt,
That’s being said, if you guys are happy that’s all it matters,
Just don’t block the trials by driving half a mile an hour