New GM Medium Duty trucks. available with 4x4.

[Buliwyf]

Sure looks similar to me.

Needs a tummy tuck to get those fuel tanks up for high center clearance..

 

[Clutch]

Funny that the 3/4-1 ton crowd "needs" 1000 ft/lbs of TQ...and the medium duties only get 700.

 

[jkam]

I went over to the International site and built a truck. No prices as you need to get a quote.
But, I could see how the order process worked and what you can get.
Promising, hope they get them out soon, I want to see one in person.

 

[gtbensley]

I would imagine we will see the new 6.6 gas motor in these as well. I am pumped that GM has come back out with a real work truck (no personal interest though).

 

[Explorerinil]

Funny that the 3/4-1 ton crowd "needs" 1000 ft/lbs of TQ...and the medium duties only get 700.

Needs or wants?

 

[locrwln]

They are similar because they are the same trucks minus the grill. I built an International just to see, and I like that you can black out that big grill, but they don't let you get into the weeds on the options. I don't see the fuel tanks hanging as low as the transfer case crossmember. I like them. Not in the market, but I will be interested to see how they do.

Jack

 

[Buddha.]

It looks similar to these?
https://www.internationaltrucks.com/trucks/cv-series

something along the lines of the RAM/Sterling connection.

 

[Stroked 550]

after all this years, why havent they put a bigger motor in these models?

 

[Stroked 550]

Needs or wants?

definitely needs, it makes a huge difference towing

 

[CodyY]

Nope:

Still looks like the darn cab has to come off. Cyl #8 is likely where the the dash is.

Worried about changing spark plugs?

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[Buliwyf]

Worried about fixing head gaskets that were installed backwards at the factory!

 

[Clutch]

Needs or wants?

I wants it, so I needs it...

Worried about changing spark plugs?

Spark plugs!?

 

[Dalko43]

definitely needs, it makes a huge difference towing

It's a want, not a need.

The torque ratings on these newer 3/4 ton pickup are starting to exceed the ratings of those diesel engines found in box trucks and the HD (Ram 4500/500 and Ford F-450/550) chassis trucks.

You don't need 900lb-ft of torque to tow a travel trailer. With a little less torque, but lower gearing, the chassis variants of these pickups tow far heavier loads all the time without any drama.

If an OEM offered a derated commercial engine for consumer use, I'd take it in a heartbeat over the current offerings.

 

[2025 deleted member]

It's a want, not a need.

The torque ratings on these newer 3/4 ton pickup are starting to exceed the ratings of those diesel engines found in box trucks and the HD (Ram 4500/500 and Ford F-450/550) chassis trucks.

You don't need 900lb-ft of torque to tow a travel trailer. With a little less torque, but lower gearing, the chassis variants of these pickups tow far heavier loads all the time without any drama.

If an OEM offered a derated commercial engine for consumer use, I'd take it in a heartbeat over the current offerings.

I had a 2011de-rated durmax in a 1 ton cab chassis 4x4. It cost the same and offered zero benefit in the MPG dept. Not sure what the advantage to it was, it would start to get warm pretty quick pulling 15k up hill, my Rams or Ford never did that.

 

[Clutch]

I had a 2011de-rated durmax in a 1 ton cab chassis 4x4. It cost the same and offered zero benefit in the MPG dept. Not sure what the advantage to it was, it would start to get warm pretty quick pulling 15k up hill, my Rams or Ford never did that.

In some heavy equipment, they'll use the same block over a range of different applications. Supposedly the lower hp/tq specced engines will last longer. heavier the machine, the more they bump up the hp/tq specs.

At least that is what my bud who works at Caterpillar was telling me. Probably just splitting hairs though.

https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/equipment/dozers.html