Newbie in VA needs help, want to respect forum protocall

wgreeves

New member
Hello Land Cruisers,

I have run across an opportunity to purchase a 2004 Land Cruiser at a price i am happy with. I have driven a Jeep Cherokee Sport for 15 years and was going to for another 15, but this came up and I am going to make the switch. Goodbye Cherokee Forum and Hello you guys. I am thinking of putting a lot into it right now because of deal on car. I have questions about 8-9 things I want to do. I would like to be specific in order to get the best answers from you guys. If I put down all of the specifics in a post together what thread would this go on? If i did it here is there a way for it to be moved to the appropriate thread? I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Wgreeves
Northern VA
 

brentbba

Explorer
Here is good. The ultimate forum, IMHO, without at all disparaging Expo because it's a great site too, for everything landcruiser is IH8MUD. There are sections for every series of cruiser worldwide. Most sections have wonderful FAQ's for you to read until you are bleary eyed.

Welcome to the wonderful world of trucks built like tanks!
 

libarata

Expedition Leader
Welcome, and make sure you look into the Virginia ExPo group here. I think a few of them in there have LCs.
 

wgreeves

New member
Okay here goes. First, thanks for the welcome. I am a newbie in all senses and not that mechanical so some questions may appear to be dumb. I am purchasing a LC 2004 with 128k. I am getting it for 10k, but it need a lot of work. I would like to do all of it at the same time. I want to start with a good base car. I have priced out stuff and think I will be putting around 6-7k in it. The things i am considering are:

1) First off i want to lift it 2.5 because that seems to be the height to go to with out needing to change anything else on the car other than lift kit stuff. The kits i looked at were old man emu and bilstein lifts. I would like to use bilstein shocks because i have them now and love them. What is the best kit that has them or can i piece a kit together? I have seen something called a diff drop mentioned an the slee kits and am wondering if i am overlooking something. The other kits do not mention this. So basically, what kit should i use? Mechanic has assured me that a 2.5 lift will not do any excessive wear on the car except for lower gas mileage and power off the line. That may be dumb to but i guess i just thought maybe i was shortening the life of car or components in car by lifting it, which i was told i am not doing.

2) I found some really cool wheels that i think would look good. They are Enkei st6 gunmetal wheels. They are pictured in the link below. If the link does not work you can see them by googling "enkei st6 gunmetal photo" and the picture with the fj shows them well.

http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/405A8064.jpg

They seem to come in only 17 and up. I have been told by a mechanic that if i will be offroading not that much, and do not want to hear the tires that i should get Goodrich all terrains. When i told him the lift size of 2.5 or so he recommended a 295/75. well the current stock rim is 18 inch and i cant seem to find a 295/75 BFG all terrain in anything bigger than a 16. i guess i could go to a 16 but i really want the enkei's and they dont come in below 17 i think..... i dont know how to deal with this. this could be an ignorant thing on my part. I just want to make sure i have a good tire / lift ratio. I cringe inside driving down the road when i see trucks that have messed this up.

3) I was thinking of using a Borla exhaust cat back system. It seems expensive but everyone says they are nice. I dont want to sound overly aggressive but everyone i talked to says the growl will be car appropriate and that i will love it. I also want to add a reese hide a hitch for light towing but hope that wont get in way. Is this a hot exhaust? (hahahahhaha)

4) I was adding magnaflow catalytic converters at 125 each because it needs it. will they affect power and am i shortchanging myself by not adding a more expensive set? any reccomendations on it?

5) I also am adding a timing belt because the former owner did not so am getting an ac delco kit with water pump. does it matter what king of kit i get as long as it includes water pump stuff?

6) i am adding performance rotors and ceramic pads up front. i guess you can see the rotors through the rims so for a few bucks why not add performance.

7) there is a lot of rust under the car. it was from up north. it does not seem to be so major that i should walk away from the deal, but it is something to be aware of. I am sure it will last a long time. The question that has been batted around is if it is worth putting a new undercoating on it??? Of course dealer says yes (dont those guys get kickbacks for every undercoating????) but private mechanic that will be doing the work says probably not to do it because you will trap all that is currently there underneath it. Anotehr mechanic says take care of my car and dont worry about it.

8) Lastly, I have been quoted prices for all of this by a dealer and they seem excessive. (DUHHH, right?) This car is out of any kind of warranty situation so i dont know why i would go to a dealer for any of this. The work being done that i have mentioned does not seem highly technical and i have been assured by the mechanic that he can handle it easily. He is a great guy and has over 25 years of experience on all cars. I was referred to him by an important person in the community whose car he deals with and i think he would say if it was too much.

I cant wait to hear some of your responses. I know it is a lot but if i can get some good advice i will make sure to post photos and be a fun contributor here. Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Philthyphil

Observer
A lot of us, including myself, run the OME (old man emu) kits partly because they are kits so they are easy to install yourself and the other part because they are of high quality. There are different versions based on the use of your truck and if chosen properly will out perform the Bilstiens. The diff drop is a good idea. I don't think there is any evidence it hurts anything. I did it. Check sleeoffroad.com or call them.

The dealer will likely be the most expensive and we will all say the best way is to do the work yourself. The one thing I think we can all agree on is please don't use the delco kit for you TB and WP. Most if not all of us here use Toyota parts when possible. They have proven to be of high quality based on how long these trucks last. Toyota parts are referred to as OEM, not to be confused with OME parts, and should be used when available. If you want to have a private mechanic do the work that's fine but use OEM parts when possible and you will be as happy as the rest of us, for a long time.

The rest is purely based on your preference.
 
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redthies

Renaissance Redneck
Old Man Emu and Bilstein are a great combination. The Slee dif drop is a good idea as it will lessen the angles on CV joints adding to their longevity.

Those wheels are ok looking (at least they look "appropriate" for a LC), but I'm a fan of the stock wheels. I run 285/75-16 BFG ATs on factory wheels (with a spacer). I would also consider the Toyo AT 2s as a tire option. They are fantastic.

Exhaust and cats? Borla has a good rep as does Magnaflow, so get what you like.

Timing belt and other engine parts? Go with Geuine a Toyota every time. You can get everything you need from "CDan" on ih8mud. He is a parts guy at American Toyota in Albuquerque NM. They will ship you everything you need, and give discounts to ih8mud members.

How much rust is "a lot" to you? Guys up north consider rust in a different way than guys in Texas. I would NOT do undercoating over it. I would try to get a quality "rust converter" type product or penetrating lubricant on it depending on whether it is body or a mechanical part.

If your mechanic has never done the timing belt on the exact engine you have, I would consider letting the Toyota dealer do it. All the other stuff anybody can do.

Good luck with your purchase. I'm sure you will love the 100 series. I've owned a bunch of different Land Cruisers over the past 30 years of driving, but the 100 is my new favorite!
 

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