Nonsense and Tomfoolery, the fast build of a slow truck

msapers

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It all started in the mid ‘70’s. To say that I grew up around Land Cruisers would be an understatement. I grew up IN them!

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1976: Me in my car seat in Dad’s 1975 FJ40. Dig the safety!


Dad belonged to a club and we went on a lot of runs together with other Land Cruisers, Jeeps, Scouts, Willys Wagons, etc.

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1979: Me at a trail run in the back of the Land Cruiser. I remember it seemed pretty roomy back then. Dig the Tru-Tracs!

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1979: Me in front of the Land Cruiser. This was about as cute as I ever got.:meh:


Dad sold the Cruiser in 1980 and bought this 1976 with a 350 a few years later. He promised to teach me to drive as soon as my feet reached the pedals. I don’t think he was counting on that happening when I was 9 years old, but he kept his word and this was the first vehicle I ever drove.

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Since then I’ve owned 3 of my own FJ40’s, a ’70, a ’72 and a ’76. All were great rigs for different reasons.

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My 76 in Azusa Canyon two years ago.


I sold my last Cruiser a few years ago as my wife hated it (manual everything, no A/C, not much room, etc. ) I decided to build more of a light expedition/camping rig that we could both be comfortable in.

Her Demands

“Doesn’t look old” (But Honey, all the cool stuff is old!)

“Must have paint” (Hey now! Spray paint IS paint!)

“Must have doors” (Why?)

4 of them (an SUV??? UGH!!!)

“Must have a COMPLETE floor” (She was really adamant about that one)

AC (Yeah, I can get behind that)

Power Windows (Well, if it’s going to have all those damn doors…)

Power Steering (Agreed)

Automatic transmission (UGH!!!! I don’t trust automatics.)


My Demands:

Solid Axles (Ha! That ought to keep us out of anything too newfangled!)

Backwoods reliability

Aftermarket support

Reasonably presentable

Able to tow a small trailer

Proven off road vehicle with a real transfer case (I’m NOT going to be the first guy to show up in Moab with a lifted Hyundai Santa Fe.)

V8 power


With all of that in mind, I began my search. All search results matching those criteria returned the same result – Land Rover Discovery. I didn’t know too much about Disco’s so I test drove a few. I really liked the driving position, but each one I drove had different things wrong with it. I decided to hit the internet forums to find out what the best year was as far as equipment and known mechanical issues. OK, so…head gaskets, electrical problems, tranny issues and every once in a while the transfer case grenades. Lovely! :bang::bang::bang: I was becoming disheartened by the whole thing , searching Disco web and Expedition Portal endlessly for a glimmer of hope that there was a hidden “good year” to buy. As I was reading yet another new Discovery II’s owner’s plea for help, I saw the following comment:

“Dude, the answer to all your problems is an 80 series Land Cruiser.”


Huh. Quite honestly, I had been of the mind that the last “real” Land Cruiser was the FJ60. It was my assumption that all the following vehicles to carry the name were IFS soccer mom minivans in disguise.

Little did I know.


I headed over to Mud, where I had been all but excommunicated from the 40 section a couple of years before for daring to suggest that there were viable alternatives to the stock FJ40 carburetor) to investigate. Sure enough, there’s an 80 section! And they’re not all purists! Ok, so…let’s see…Solid axles? LOCKERS??? These things had lockers? Why didn’t anyone ever tell me? I’M IN!

I ended up spending a couple of months reading threads there and here on Expo in order to avoid any pitfalls. I posted a few times and everybody seems pretty cool.

Armed with a solid Muducation, I headed out for a few test drives. My first impression was that it felt like a Toyota truck, not the uber plush yuppie wagon I was expecting. Same driving position that I liked in the Disco too.

It took a few weeks of searching Craigslist before I found what I was looking for – a 1997 FZJ80 with lockers, nice paint, no issues and not overpriced. The test drive went well, lockers work as does everything else. $4k later, she was mine! It came with a full service history and when I did my baseline checks, all the flujids looked like new and were at their proper levels (Even the axles AND t-case!) Although everything seems fine, I'll rebuild the front axle when I re-gear in a few months.

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My 1997 FZJ80:bounce:


Well, if you actually made it past my long winded introduction, here is the plan for the build:

2.5 inch OME lift

315/75/16 ******** Cepek Mud Countrys - EDIT: I have decided to go with 285/75/16's instead in the interest of keeping a lower center of gravity.

ARB front bumper - DONE

Winch - DONE

Lights - DONE

Prin su roof rack - DONE

Tepui Tent - DONE

Spare tire and jerry can carrier

On Board Air

Drawer system to hold camping gear with slide out kitchen

Fridge slide

ARB awnings on driver’s side and rear

CB and HAM

Upgraded stereo

Cupholder - DONE

Center Diff Lock Switch - DONE

Pin 7 mod

Plasti Dip center of hood and flares

A few other one off ideas that I have


Did I mention that all of this has to be done by August? Yeah, our anniversary is in September and we’re planning a camping trip. Luckily (depending on how you look at it) some unlicensed ************ blew through an intersection and totaled my Silverado, so we have a workable budget.

I removed the running boards and third row seats the minute I got home and put the truck to work the next morning.

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Towing my 1950 Chevy project to the alignment shop

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A little rain makes it easy to see where your clearcoat is horked.

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ARB Bumper, Smittybuilt 9.5k winch and some lights I had lying around.

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Not sure if the bumper/winch is super heavy or if my front springs are just super whipped. Probably both.

Installed a Chinese snorkel. There are a lot of valid reasons to run a snorkel and when I think of one, I'll post it here. I promise that this will be the only purposeless mod I do. Meh, it was $33 and it's functional.

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Snorkishness!


I called Slee and Cristo was nice enough to walk me through my suspension order and suggest the correct springs for my intended use (fully loaded all the time). They arrived yesterday. I’m going to hold off on installing the lift until I have all the weight on the truck, as I’m sure those springs would be pretty harsh unloaded.

I was able to get in on a deal with Q-Ball over at Mud for a Prin Su rack (same one as on Boxrocket’s truck. I am anxiously waiting for that to arrive.

I will be contacting Boxrocket this week to order my tent. As my hair gets greyer, I find that I am still physically capable of doing the things I did when I was 17, but the next day usually sucks so, I’m planning to have it shipped to my work where I can use a forklift to set it in place.

The ARB awnings arrived today!


That's all for now...stay tuned!

Scott



Cup holder situation is handled.

$6 at Pep Boys and it securely holds a 32oz Gatorade bottle. It can go even bigger, so a 7-11 Bladderbuster 9000 shouldn't pose a problem.

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Received some new toys today! My 3D printed cup holder from bhicks over on Mud arrived. It fits perfectly, looks great and...um...holds cups.

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I've been wanting to add a CDL switch to my 80 but I couldn't find one at a reasonable price. finally, I decided to just use a hazard switch. As I was perusing Ebay, I came across a listing for a CDL switch with very little detail and 1 crappy out of focus picture. All I could tell was that it was some sort of switch and that it was dirty. The price was $60.00, so I decided to roll the dice. This afternoon when I opened the envelope, this is what I found inside:

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Brand damn new switch!!!

I am no stranger to being monstrously, deeply and thoroughly hosed by the wonderment that is the online shopping experience, so it's nice when something turns out to be better than expected.

Hopefully, I'll get to install it tomorrow before work.


Progress!....of a sort.

I managed to break my ankle and foot last week (3 fractures total, what do I win?). The doc told me that I'll be in a cast/boot for the next 6-8 weeks. I can get around on crutches but I need to be able to drive to work. Hmm. What to do? The motorcycle is sadly out of the question. Maybe if I sit sideways, I can drive the 80 with my left foot? Left foot works fine for the brakes but the gas is a no-go. DAMN!

Right about the time that my wife started talking about Dial-A-Ride, I hobbled my *** out the door and down to church (aka my garage). I sat amongst my tools and raised my head to call upon the gods of hoarded parts for a solution. Directly above me sat my old mountain bike. Hmm... I'm either constipated or...I HAVE AN IDEA!!!

Utilizing the front brake lever and cable from the bike, some small square tubing that In had laying around, a few odds and ends and my welder, I made this:

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Ran the cable through here and attached it where the factory hand throttle cable goes.
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Hose clamped the tube to the bottom of the shift lever.
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It works! Smooth as silk but not too comfortable.
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Time to clean up the design. I cut the tube and welded it back on at an angle to allow for enough travel in the lever, then added a T at the top ton rest my hand on.
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Wrapped the T in some rubber that I had. I'm all about luxury.
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Finished! Swanky, no?
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msapers

New member
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I drove it around for about an hour and it works great. I'm back on the road! EDIT: Drove around like that without incident for about three weeks until the ankle healed enough to drive normally again. I don't advocate doing this to your truck, but it worked for me.

Below is the installation and review of my roof rack from PrinSu Design Studios. I initially saw this rack on BoxRocket's build thread and liked it because it was light, had a full "foot" design for even weight distribution, was flat on top and was (relatively) affordable. I got into a group buy with Qball back in May and finally received my rack early last week. I'm not too annoyed at the time it took to ship as I know that this is a new product and these things take time.

A few notes on the installation and one major complaint:

1. There are no instructions included with the rack. This is no big deal for most of us but if you happen to be one of those folks that needs the FSM to change your floor mats, you're going to need therapy when you see all the hardware that comes with this rack.

2. When installing the wind deflector to the front crossbar, the easiest way is to place all the screws in the wind deflector and start a T-nut on each one NO MORE THAN TWO TURNS (they are short little buggers. Once you have all 10 screws and T-nuts started in the wind deflector, begin sliding the deflector in place while feeding the T-nuts into the slot in the end of the cross bar. If you try to install the T-nuts into the crossbar first and then line up all the holes on the wind deflector, you will quite simply drive yourself insane. Beer to celebrate a job easily done or shock treatments and a Thorazine drip when the neighbors find you curled in a ball in your driveway incoherently crying over a piece of aluminum and some little screws...the choice is yours. Hey, maybe you need the vacation. I'm not here to judge.

3. When setting the rack into place, make sure that it is in the right place on the roof for the "feet" to follow the contour of the drip rail for maximum contact.

The rack is very well engineered and feels strong and solid. However, there is one problem with the design that you might want to consider attending to in your own installation...which brings me to my...

MAJOR COMPLAINT - The brackets that go from the gutter to the rack are not up to the standard of the rest of the assembly. They are, to put it bluntly, garbage. When they were installed, they deformed long before they ever tightened. I never used more than one finger's force on a standard 1/2 box wrench, so don't blame my gorilla hands.

The bracket as delivered
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The same bracket after minor snugging
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As I said above, the rack is awesome. I'll just make some new gutter brackets out of real metal and it'll be good to go. All in all, I would not hesitate to recommend this rack to anyone.

A few more pics:

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Since my idea of a month on the road is this:

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and my wife's idea of two days at a KOA is this:

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a compromise had to be reached. After much begging rational discussion, we decided that a rooftop tent would be the way to go.

Got the Tepui rooftop tent installed today! I'll do a real review once we go camping but here's what I can say now:

Installation: Easy as pie. Bolt on the rails and the ladder, set it on the rack, slide in the retaining bolts, add plates and nuts and you're done.

Initial deployment thoughts: This is a high quality tent! I'm really happy with the construction, fabric and hardware. I think the color looks great with the 80's blue paint too.

Ordering/shipping etc: I got this tent through Boxrocket. He's a great guy to deal with and it was a simple phone call to put things in motion. Couldn't be happier with the buying experience.

Pics:

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Bell

Bell
Looks like a fantastic build.

My wife has the same view of camping as yours.

Could you please point me in the direction of $33 Chinese snorkels. A link would be awesome.
 

lugueto

Adventurer
That's a good looking 80! You won't regret owning it, as I imagine would've happened with a Discovery lol

You know, there's more than one reason for wanting a snorkel.

For one, it helps the engine breathe better on dusty conditions, for example my air filter lasts longer after I installed it (according to the FilterMinder gauge installed in my filter housing) but people the vehicle probably won't be affected on highway or city conditions obviously. Also, I do a lot of deep water crossings, and it helps give you peace of mind when water goes up and over your hood (trust me). Some say it works as a cold air intake, I felt no performance difference whatsoever. Some people say the ram intake helps the engine perform better at highway speeds where, again, there was no difference felt

I suppose reason number one would be more common, depending on where you live, for me both reasons were enough to install it. Luckily, as far as drawbacks go, I haven't found the first one.
 

cruiserpilot

Adventurer
You are an entertaining writer anyhow. Well put together build. That isn't your Valkyrie is it? I've got more than a few miles on one
of those. That roof rack is very cool, they are so well made. J
 

msapers

New member
Thanks. Yep, That's my Valkyrie "The Mothership". I bought her with 9k miles and we're pushing 130k now.
 

redthies

Renaissance Redneck
Great read! I'm a bit late to the party but might help others reading this a bit... The CDL switch is also found on most Rav4s. I got mine at a wrecker for $5. You best get going on your springs now too. It looks pretty much ready for them.
 

msapers

New member
Yeah, the tent has pretty much finished off the stock springs. I have a 2.5 OME lift sitting in the garage.
 

msapers

New member
Big Changes!

Lots of progress this weekend! First I installed the OME 2.5" lift. Christo at Slee recommended 850's in the front and 864's in the rear for the weight that I'll be carrying. It's sitting a little tail-high right now but I'm not going to do anything about it until the suspension has had a chance to settle and I finish adding weight. Once all that is done, I'll add a small spacer to the front to level it if need be. The install was simple, but time consuming. It took me about 4 hours start to finish. I'm really happy with the ride and handling. The truck doesn't wallow at all and feels much more stable in turns. I haven't done any caster correction yet, as I plan to wait until I decide whether or not to add a spacer to the front. At that time , I'll use Slee's caster plates. To me, the caster bushings seem a little hokey. :meh:




Me in the middle of 2am impact wrench practice. My neighbors love me.






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After:






I also got my ARB awnings installed today (8 foot on the driver's side for hanging out, 4 foot in the rear which will provide shade for the slide out kitchen that I'm about to build). I'm not sure if anyone else has done this with the PrinSu rack, so here's a couple of tips:




Rear (4 foot) awning: You'll need to do some notching on one side of the crossbar and use longer bolts if you plan to mount an ARB awning to the crossbar of this rack. Not a big deal and the awning is the same width as the crossbar, so it fits between the side rails of the rack without issue.




Notched the crossbar for bolt clearance, used a plate on the back side of the crossbar.






Rear crossbar installed vertically and at an angle to provide clearance between the awning and the roof.






Side (8 foot) awning: The awning needs to be spaced away from the rack in order to clear the screws that hold the rack together and the roof brackets. I used some scrap 1/4 aluminum bar , cut, drilled and painted black (which was not necessary because it can't be seen). I also used longer bolts to make up for the spacer bars.




1/4 inch aluminum spacers. You need three of these:






I used the top slotted hole in the side rail of the rack for the awning's top bolt and drilled a hole in the side rail under it for the bottom bolt. This was done at the front, middle and rear of the side rail. NOTE: This is not an ideal way to mount the awning if you like to reconfigure your rack a lot for different loads. However, my rack will always have the same load on it (awnings and tent), so it was the perfect solution for me.




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Middle:






Rear:






Installation Tip: A ratcheting 10mm box wrench is your friend here. All told In was able to install both awnings in about 2 hours. (Including a bolt run).




I love how simple and easy the awnings function. Setup of both awnings, alone, takes me about 90 seconds each.




Awning porn:
























































The next step will be the fabrication of my spare tire/water can swingouts and the design and build of my slide out kitchen and fridge mount/slide. Stay tuned...
 

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