OME configuration question

[DirectDrive]

You may not need upper control arms either, I started with about 2.5" of lift and did NOT need aftermarket upper control arms, YMMV.

It is certainly possible to omit the aftermarket UCA's and see how it drives after the lift. Add it later if needed.


Out of a ton of samplings, I have never seen it reported that stock caster adjustment was achieved with a 2-1/2" lift on a Taco.
Good camber and toe adjustments can be achieved with the lift.
Some have decided to live with the less than ideal caster.

It would be interesting to see your post-lift alignment report ?

 

[Owyhee H]

I will try to find the report. I know that the Caster was not ideal but it was in the acceptable range, and it drove great. I opted to go to a lower lift, for many reasons. I really like the way my truck handles with 1.5" of lift and stock size tires. I think I can go wherever I need with this current setup.

 

[DirectDrive]

I will try to find the report. I know that the Caster was not ideal but it was in the acceptable range, and it drove great. I opted to go to a lower lift, for many reasons. I really like the way my truck handles with 1.5" of lift and stock size tires. I think I can go wherever I need with this current setup.

Well, if it drives great, that is the final test.
Numbers are just numbers sometimes.

 

[DirectDrive]

Actually I was agreeing about the stock parts being crap. As I stated it twice.

The OP was not asking about the stock stuff. He wanted to know OME specifics and put the discussion back on track in post #4.
I made my comment to try to keep it there.

Resin or Plastic either way the point was the bed is light as hell and when you add the rear leafs with zero load it drives terrible.
I have drilled plenty into the bed and its done some crazy stuff to me. Cracked, turned to powder. Also the metal bed sides are light and pretty much a joke. They need to be protected.
I liked my stock bed so much after I removed it, the bed found a new home behind my shop holding the air down.

You said it was UHMW. I said it was not. And it is not UHMW.
Any empty pickup bed is going to be light. Doesn't matter what it's made out of.
Shocks need to be matched to the spring rate that they serve.

As for the Tacoma world kids. Well who cares.

There are a few very knowledgeable Tacoma guys over there and they are in their 40's, 50's and 60's believe it or not.
Outside of Toyota, I don't think that there is a deeper Tacoma data base anywhere. And I'm talking about TSB's, structural items and useful mods, NOT BLING.

Now let it go

 

[upcountry]

Well this blew up quick. Do what makes you happy. OmE is a great product. We all agree. Now hug and make up.

 

[DirectDrive]

Well this blew up quick. Do what makes you happy. OmE is a great product. We all agree. Now hug and make up.

Alright, group hug. :wings:
Hopefully the OP was both helped and entertained. :sombrero:

 

[upcountry]

Just for the record, I have found Tacoma World to be a great resource with lots of detailed technical info. I also must say there are some real idiots over there that jack threads. I have been banned twice from Tacoma World for speaking my mind to these idiots. It seems the moderators have worked hard at trying to clean it up, and I have not had that experience in a while under my new screen name.

But, I must also say that the Expo forum is more in line with my interests as I am true gear whore I feel I fit in well here, and this forum is more focused on the whole experience of off-road travel.

 

[DirectDrive]

Just for the record, I have found Tacoma World to be a great resource with lots of detailed technical info. I also must say there are some real idiots over there that jack threads. I have been banned twice from Tacoma World for speaking my mind to these idiots. It seems the moderators have worked hard at trying to clean it up, and I have not had that experience in a while under my new screen name.

But, I must also say that the Expo forum is more in line with my interests as I am true gear whore I feel I fit in well here, and this forum is more focused on the whole experience of off-road travel.

Agree 100%
There are some real dipwads over there at TW and there are some very knowledgeable Taco folks as well.
I learned about the suspension TSB there and got my free leaf springs just for the asking. Also learned much about Tacoma lifting.
There are also some excellent small shop, Tacoma-specific fabricators the use TW as their storefront......sliders, skids, etc.

I also like off road and primitive camping and Ex Po is a great resource for that.

 

[zolo]

The OP was not asking about the stock stuff. He wanted to know OME specifics and put the discussion back on track in post #4.
I made my comment to try to keep it there.


You said it was UHMW. I said it was not. And it is not UHMW.
Any empty pickup bed is going to be light. Doesn't matter what it's made out of.
Shocks need to be matched to the spring rate that they serve.


There are a few very knowledgeable Tacoma guys over there and they are in their 40's, 50's and 60's believe it or not.
Outside of Toyota, I don't think that there is a deeper Tacoma data base anywhere. And I'm talking about TSB's, structural items and useful mods, NOT BLING.

Now let it go

Let it go? Even though you keep acting like an angry child that has to be right every time.

You must think I'm about the Bling cause you keep bringing it up??? Wonder why?

You also stated "KIDS" as for the Tacoma World forum. I was just sticking with the word kids you introduced.


I'm not really sure why you are acting this way.
Please stop trying to play Forum police. You have info so do I.

 

[DirectDrive]

Dood, do the group hug.
It's over.

:smiley_drive:

 

[zolo]

No hug....Not even a little...Dood

 

[wilson]

Thanks for all the HELPFUL replies!I believe I have found all the info I was looking for. I could probably do without the squabbling...

 

[4xdog]

Thanks for the discussion on OME options for Tacomas. An OME upgrade was easy on my old XJ. Not quite so easy for my current 2001 Tacoma, so all this info helps understand how to think about it.

Also, the 2nd generation Tacoma beds are made from glass fiber-reinforced sheet molding compound (SMC), IIRC. The resin -- or plastic, if you like -- the semantics are kinda flexible -- is usually unsaturated polyester. This is the same stuff heavy truck body panels are made of and not that different from some boats and shower enclosures.

It's a thermoset polymer, which means it won't melt and can't be reshaped with heat and pressure like a thermoplastic polymer can. Its highly filled with minerals like calcium carbonate in addition to the glass fiber for dimensional stability and high Young's modulus.

Words like resin and plastic are kinda loose terms in polymer science. They can both be used for the same things. It seems Toyota use the word resin to indicate the nonmelting/cured nature of the molding compound. Not wrong at all.

Don

 

[bat]

Look into the UCA not only for alignment but for adding some extension of the front suspension. It all about personal taste I am not a fan of OME shocks but do like there leaf springs.

 

[wilson]

another thing, are extended brake lines required?