On Board Water

[Airborne Lee]

I'm planning to add a water tank to the inside of the M416. I'm thinking of using a water sprayer tank/pump combo. I can get a 25 gal tank with pump. Rather than using a small high pressure sprayer tip, I'll use a larger diameter output hose with a shower head or kitchen sink sprayer type end. This will allow for quick fill of cups, pots, etc. or even connect to a water heater for trailer edge showers.

My question is rather than buying the full set up at Tractor supply for 130. It seems reasonable that I should be able to buy the put for 40 and a 15-25 gallon plastic tank for less than the difference. I am finding water tanks on line for SHOCKINGLY high prices.

Any ideas???

 

[bat]

Look into Northern tool they have some pretty cheap tanks

 

[Martyn]

Water tanks for human consumption should be made from food grade plastic.

Chemical sprayers are made from plastic that can leach chemical into the water.

If you decide to got the water tank route and need a quote, send me the size of the area you are trying to fill, and or the amount of gallons you want to carry and I'll be able to give you some alternatives.

Tanks made from food grade plastics are not inexpensive, but think about the alternative.

 

[REasley]

I hate to disagree, especially with Martyn, but sprayer tanks and water tanks are both usually made from from the LLD Poly resin. The only requirement to make it food grade is that it be made from virgin resin. Most tank molders will not put repro (reprossed plastic) back into their tanks because it can embrittle the finished product and lead to warranty issues. The tanks do not have to be black. The black color is there for 3 reasons. The carbon black used to create the black color also happens to be a fairly good UV stabilizer, black tends to limit algae growth, and what little algae growth there is can't be seen.

I would not use the unit from TSC only because there is no way to find out who made the tank. The store personel won't know and corporate won't tell and in their drive to push suppliers to reduce the cost (and increase margin), some suppliers might use repro to reduce production costs. There should be farm stores in your area that will stock or can get that style tank and can supply the needed info on the tank. Your best bet might be to ask Martyn if he can get you a tank from someone like Ronco that is built just for this application.

 

[Airborne Lee]

What got me on this rant is my sprayer tank documentation SAYS potable water!

 

[bmonday]

I'm planning to add a water tank to the inside of the M416. I'm thinking of using a water sprayer tank/pump combo. I can get a 25 gal tank with pump. Rather than using a small high pressure sprayer tip, I'll use a larger diameter output hose with a shower head or kitchen sink sprayer type end. This will allow for quick fill of cups, pots, etc. or even connect to a water heater for trailer edge showers.

My question is rather than buying the full set up at Tractor supply for 130. It seems reasonable that I should be able to buy the put for 40 and a 15-25 gallon plastic tank for less than the difference. I am finding water tanks on line for SHOCKINGLY high prices.

Any ideas???

Do you really need that much water? 25 gallons is a lot (and it's 200 pounds too). I can go for a week easily on two 5-gal gerry cans (though, admittedly I don't use that water for showering).

Maybe have 2 tanks, one small food-grade one for potable water, and a larger cheap one for non-potable purposes, such as showers and dishwashing.

 

[wyorunner]

Lee did you look at campingworld.com? It seems as if they offer "replacement" tanks. I also dont know what expensive is in your case.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/product/replacement-tanks/1801

 

[REasley]

If it says for potable water it will be all virgin and useable. The spot sprayer market is very competative. If you shop around I think you can find a better price. Unfortunately this is the off season. You are in Kansas City? Try the Orschlen store out in Raymore. Go in and ask the for the manager. Tell him what you are doing and that you were looking at them at TSC and you need a better price. If he has any inventory left, you might get lucky.

 

[jim65wagon]

Do you really need that much water? 25 gallons is a lot (and it's 200 pounds too).

That's really not much water at all....considering drinking water, showers, dish-washing, etc. A lone individual may not use much, but if you are hauling a family out 25 gallons can disappear very quickly!


Haggis uses a sprayer tank from TSC (20 or 25 gallon) it's docs read as potable. I know it doesn't smell or taste any differently than the water coming from my water tank (PPL Motorhomes potable tank). Of course only a chemical analysis would say for certain.

 

[dustboy]

My OBW tank is 12 gallons and I often wish I had used a bigger one. I've found that my wife and I go through 12 gallons on a two-night trip and predictably it runs out after sunday morning dishes. The water is only used for drinking, cooking, dishwashing, not showers. I'll pack full solar showers for that.

20-25 gallons would be a very good size, especially for desert exploration. Of course you don't have to fill it all the way if it's too much weight. Far better to have too much water than not enough.

This is the tank I got

Internally baffled, non-toxic, clean-tasting, and you can add whatever fittings you want using readily-available PVC and ABS parts.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

What's "expensive"? I got a 19gal tank from an RV shop and I think it was less than $100. For my family's health, I'm not going to save a couple bucks by using a non-potable tank. I'm usually not the alarmist worry wart guy, but in this case, buying the proper tank was cheap.

 

[60LCConvert]

ordered my tank from here, lots of sizes east to deal with and pretty helpful in getting you the size and capacity you want or at least real close to it
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-pumps-water/rv-fresh-water-tank.htm

 

[MrNoPrintz]

many of those "cheaper" tanks are blow molded versus Roto Molded. Martyn is correct, that many less dubious manufacturers will cut their Virgin Prime LLDPE/HDPE with regrind, recycled or off grade materials to increase their margins.

If your looking for a tank to last for longer than a couple of summers, spend the extra money and get a durable rototationally molded tank. The blow molded tanks are generally junk and usually only last a summer or until the first "oops".

I got a 60 gallon tank from the same company I bought my Water Mates from just for our RV's shower/cooking water. Generally, I can fill it to a little over half way, and that's plenty of water for 3 of us for the weekend to eat and shower on!

check out www.water-mates.com for the low profile water mate tanks or www.grangerplastics.com for some of their other stuff. Great guys to work with and they build really strong stuff! I hate headaches and hassles out on the road!

Tell 'em Leo Deveroe sent ya!

 

[R_Lefebvre]

My tank is made from cut sheet and plastic welded.

 

[evldave]

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200337114_200337114

I don't have this, but 26 gallons for $50 and FDA approved seems like a good idea (except no baffles)??