One rig to rule them all

eugene

Explorer
Also factor in a smaller car that gets better mpg cuts corners in other ways. Subtract the cost of a timing belt from the fuel saved. Then subtract the insurance, title, registration and if your in a state that does so taxes and inspection cost. Then subtract consumables, a second oil change, tires, etc. Even when I was commuting 20 miles I couldn't make the numbers work out to where it was profitable to have a small car to commute.
 

p nut

butter
I admittedly am a soft roader, when I even find the time to get out and camp.
2012 Ford F150
2005 Pontiac Vibe
2018 Ford Expedition

Also have a trailer with a roof top tent mounted on it, no tow hitch on the Pontiac but It would be more than capable of towing the trailer so any vehicle could serve my purpose of a soft roader.

My wife and I's main hobby has become bass fishing so many trips have turned towards that, staying in cabins/airbnb/hotles vs camping while towing the boat. tent could be moved to truck or suv though, I've also thought of picking up a nice ground tent so camp doesn't need broken down each morning if we are staying the same location multiple nights.

I’ve turned more into a soft roader myself. Years of slow rock crawling, it doesn’t interest me anymore. Backcountry desert travel is my current interest. I’d think either of your vehicles (F150 and Expedition) would fit that bill.

Personally, I’d just keep the stable as-is. I’ve done the “one vehicle” route. It’s nice in theory. But at least for my situation, cons outweighed the pros. Plus, after a week in the commuter, it’s really nice to get back into a truck. Makes me appreciate it more.
 

pigsammy

Active member
You commuter is 'approaching 300k', it may be around a while but it will leave the party eventually. Drive it until then
and keep mileage down on the other vehicles.
It will be nice to have the truck as a backup to drive when something happens to the commuter, even if it's only down for repairs for a few days. The Pontiac is probably more valuable to you in this role of preserving value than selling or trading, and inexpensive enough to run less insurance.
Keep a vehicle you like that is suited for your type of adventure and that you will be willing to drive where you want without worrying about it. You'll be happy every time you get in it, good memories as well as anticipation. ( My dogs are always excited to see me, but they go nuts when "the fun truck" cranks! They know the difference! )
The commuter will preserve your trucks lifespan for more years of enjoyment.
 

MikeWeaver

New member
It depends on your priorities, If you want something with good off-road capability, relatively reliable, comfortable, spacious and fuel efficient - It would some crossover.

The first choice comes to mind would probably be a Subaru Ascent (I took it for a test drive and kind of liked it).
I compared it to an F150 in using this program https://offroadium.com/compare-vehicles.html No surprise that it scores 49 points vs almost 74 for F150, but it's an ok trade off for what it is for me. Of course I'll keep my FJ80, but it needs some work now.
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anyways my point is not that you need an Ascent - but that you need to consider some normal size crossovers in your price range.
 

bartheil

Active member
I admittedly am a soft roader, when I even find the time to get out and camp.
2012 Ford F150
2005 Pontiac Vibe
2018 Ford Expedition

Also have a trailer with a roof top tent mounted on it, no tow hitch on the Pontiac but It would be more than capable of towing the trailer so any vehicle could serve my purpose of a soft roader.

My wife and I's main hobby has become bass fishing so many trips have turned towards that, staying in cabins/airbnb/hotles vs camping while towing the boat. tent could be moved to truck or suv though, I've also thought of picking up a nice ground tent so camp doesn't need broken down each morning if we are staying the same location multiple nights.
Here is a nice video of what you can do with a (2106 expedition)
https://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/minimalist-overlander-2016-ford-expedition.223588/

Here is an other one.
https://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/2014-ford-expedition-el-build.242994/#post-3162037
 

redthies

Renaissance Redneck
I’m in the process of selling off 3 of my 5 vehicles and buying one new to me. We have a ‘25 Land Cruiser for the business, I just bought a ridiculously priced ‘05 Power Wagon for towing, dump runs, hunting, fishing, and I have a 1963 VW Manx clone for when I want to waste time spinning wrenches. I’m selling my Sequoia, Tacoma and Bronco. I have an acre of land to keep them on, but it’s ridiculous. Insurance, maintenance etc is just wasted on the 3 extras.

OP, unless one of your vehicles is dying, I don’t see much need for you to downsize. Although, the F150 and Expedition seem to have a lot of overlap in my eyes. Unless your wife needs a non beater for the weekends when you are not using the Viberator, you could morph both the Fords into a newer/nicer F150 if you don’t “need“ the suv part of the Expedition. An F150 with a canopy/topper/toneau etc would do everything except carry more than 5 people.
 

ricoisme26

Active member
I’m in the process of selling off 3 of my 5 vehicles and buying one new to me. We have a ‘25 Land Cruiser for the business, I just bought a ridiculously priced ‘05 Power Wagon for towing, dump runs, hunting, fishing, and I have a 1963 VW Manx clone for when I want to waste time spinning wrenches. I’m selling my Sequoia, Tacoma and Bronco. I have an acre of land to keep them on, but it’s ridiculous. Insurance, maintenance etc is just wasted on the 3 extras.

OP, unless one of your vehicles is dying, I don’t see much need for you to downsize. Although, the F150 and Expedition seem to have a lot of overlap in my eyes. Unless your wife needs a non beater for the weekends when you are not using the Viberator, you could morph both the Fords into a newer/nicer F150 if you don’t “need“ the suv part of the Expedition. An F150 with a canopy/topper/toneau etc would do everything except carry more than 5 people.
new nickname for the Vibe found.

Agree a lot of overlap, partly intentional. We're ahead on maintenance/insurance/registration on the F150 and Expedition combined compared to where we'd be with one newer F150. My truck has a topper and has been the expedition/vacation rig but its over 160k miles now and I'm a bit behind on some maintenance items. Expedition fit the role of backing up the truck should it fail and easing our range worries with the impending electric company car. Range is only a valid concern as she frequently exceeds the EVs range during her daily travels for work leaving no range for personal use in the evening.
 

hemifoot

Observer
we currently use the truck for truck things and the wife's tesla for any commuting.i also have 6 boats for various water activities.2 fishing boats,a deck boat,a cruiser,a flat bottom with a hemi,a couple fishing kayaks,a car topper.i also have an atv and a side by side because one or the other just won't do.there's no such thing as a unicorn do it all,just like there's no unicorn do it all tire.
 

ricoisme26

Active member
we currently use the truck for truck things and the wife's tesla for any commuting.i also have 6 boats for various water activities.2 fishing boats,a deck boat,a cruiser,a flat bottom with a hemi,a couple fishing kayaks,a car topper.i also have an atv and a side by side because one or the other just won't do.there's no such thing as a unicorn do it all,just like there's no unicorn do it all tire.
this sounds like my dream, all the boats, the side by side and atv, coincidentally its my wife's nightmare :ROFLMAO:
 

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