Opinions please - camper shell or open bed?

dman93

Adventurer
I have a double-cab short bed Tacoma, first double-cab pickup after 3 extended cabs. Used for everything from daily driver to extended camping trips in the Western US. I bought it with a shell, and recently added an RTT which I've already used about 20 times. I wanted the double-cab specifically for occasional passenger duty, since we sold our "family" car as part of the deal, but our kids live out of state so typical usage is just me and my wife. I wanted the shell because we often bring our bikes, and I wanted to be able to put them inside out of the weather and away from prying eyes. However, because of a specific multi-week trip where I needed to fill the bed with cargo, I bought a hitch rack for the bikes. Yeah, they got wet and dirty, but it's so much easier, especially for my wife, than loading them in the back of my 5' bed, arranged just right to fit. And speaking of my wife, she's really not tall enough to deploy the RTT on her own either.

So, after a few months, I am coming to the conclusion that I've lost a lot of the versatility of a pickup, not to mention adding several hundred pounds extra weight, and restricted visibility, and reduced overhead trail clearance, with a shell that I may not really need. And, if I got rid of the shell and continue to use the bike rack, I could put the RTT on a a bed-high rack and reduce drag AND get it low enough for my wife to deploy. And if I had the RTT mounted low, I could back the truck into the garage and remove the RTT solo and hang it from the rafters, easily opening up the bed to use as a real pickup. OTOH, I do find myself filling up the available covered space, but probably because I bring too much crap. When I was younger four of us would go camping in my 2 door Civic hatch. Or two of us plus all gear except 5 gallon water jug behind the seats of my Datsin KingCab.

Anyway, too much info perhaps, but I wanted to provide some context, and would specifically like to hear from folks who have gone back to traveling with an open bed truck after having a shell, especially with a low-mount RTT. And, how to deal with dust, rain, bear-proofing etc. Thanks.
 

andytruck

Observer
I tried to go no shell on my new truck, but had to give in. Truck looks better without it, but for me, and my bikes, the shell is so much more useful that I can lock things inside the bed area, and can fill the bed up to the roof and not have to worry about things blowing out, and don't have to unload right away when I get home for security reasons, or if it is raining.… I don't have to haul things that require the shell to come off so don't have your issues.
I have a hitch rack, but getting insurance to cover a 12,000 bike if in an accident (rear ended) is not easy.
My bike is waterproof so not worried about it out in the weather either.
Go with a shell that is the same height as the truck roof for aerodynamics if that is what you have a concern about also.
The shells are not meant to come on and off a lot. A tanuo cover is what that is for. A friend has that and wedges bike under if he needs to or uses the bike rack if he can.
 

dman93

Adventurer
Thanks for the comments. Just to be clear, I have a shell (cab high) and I'm considering removing it. With a 5' bed squeezing two 29" mountain bikes in is tight; fitting even one let alone two under a tonneau is a no-go. Anyone out there who's removed their shell and been happier?
 

fortel

Adventurer
I've always had shells on my trucks for all of the typical reasons...dry and more secure storage, sleeping inside, hauling wet and muddy dogs, etc. When I got my Frontier (crew cab with short bed), I tried going without a shell. I camp a lot in the rain here in the midwest and the hassle of waterproofing all my camping gear just to drive somewhere was a pain. I also worried about the security of my gear in an open bed while out of site of the truck on trips or when hauling around all my trail building tools on trail workdays. Plus my truck is my daily do everything vehicle and the short bed on a midsize truck isn't very usable for some other typical truck bed uses like dumping in bulk scoops of topsoil or mulch for the yard which required me hooking up my utility trailer anyway. So for my personal situations, I put a cab-high Leer shell on the Frontier and permanently mounted a cargo basket on top of it. Now I'm back to lockable and dry storage which is nice. My gravel bike and fat bike ride on a hitch-mounted rack. But you list some specific-to-you concerns that might suggest losing the shell would be a better solution. Just spend some time really thinking the pros and cons of each configuration and which works better for the majority of your truck's use. Sounds like either way will be a compromise of sorts.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
I would look at a bed slide with fork mounts for your bikes, pull it out, mount the bikes, and gear around them....slide it in. I am going this route with my truck this year along with a leer locker type top storage box, and a roof rack for things like canoe and kayaks...
 

dman93

Adventurer
I would look at a bed slide with fork mounts for your bikes, pull it out, mount the bikes, and gear around them....slide it in. I am going this route with my truck this year along with a leer locker type top storage box, and a roof rack for things like canoe and kayaks...
With my current cab-high shell, the bikes have to be tipped slightly to fit under the rear window frame, with fork mounts, even without the added height of a bed slide. 29" mountain bikes ... they do fit, but it's like making a puzzle to get them in. And I don't want an even taller shell.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
is it the seat thats the issue? or the tires? I swear there is lots of room once you remove the front wheel, and lower the seat in my truck...I could be wrong however.
 

dman93

Adventurer
is it the seat thats the issue? or the tires? I swear there is lots of room once you remove the front wheel, and lower the seat in my truck...I could be wrong however.
Trust me, you're wrong :) With my wife's bike, the bars clear but even with the dropper seat post all the way down, the saddle rubs the top of the window frame when sliding the bike in vertically. And my my bike clears neither the bars nor the seat lowered all the way. Even with the bed mat removed. These bikes are tall and have to be maneuvered into the bed. It took multiple tries to locate the fork mounts just right for everything to clear.
 
I had the same dilemma on my Colorado. Wanted shell for camping and lockable storage but my truck is my DD and was concerned about visibility.
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So I did a Diamondback 270.
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andytruck

Observer
One big trip I did I had a roof rack, but drove with bikes inside, even the rack inside, then when camping put bikes on roof for security, to keep them out of the way, and if I did need to do some local errands could just leave them up there. Another trip I just had one side of the roof rack to hold the forks, but can't drive like that.
There will be compromises. I like the receiver racks the best though.
They do make a receiver for the front and is legal to drive with bikes up there. This way are out of the way of the tailgate.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
Trust me, you're wrong :) With my wife's bike, the bars clear but even with the dropper seat post all the way down, the saddle rubs the top of the window frame when sliding the bike in vertically. And my my bike clears neither the bars nor the seat lowered all the way. Even with the bed mat removed. These bikes are tall and have to be maneuvered into the bed. It took multiple tries to locate the fork mounts just right for everything to clear.

Dman, I just tried my 26" dual suspension ride and correct...No where near.....It was my dodge I was thinking about....I remembered I had a high rise on it. BUt thats ok, I am getting a trailer hitch bike mount on my jeeps so we can swap over to all of the vehciles.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
the other thing you could get is the sylvainsport trailer! that thing is kickass for the sports enthusiast.
 

awphillips93

New member
Yeah, for you it seems like either option will work. On the other end of the spectrum, I have an 8' bed with a high-rise shell (aka nothing but interior space). I couldn't go without it at this point. I've got a removable bed and counter with storage underneath each. A few turnbuckles and both come out in case I need to haul anything. The aisle down the center will hold a few bikes upright if I need. My favorite thing is the weather-proof storage.

I have seen people with tonneau covers underneath a cab-high bed rack. That would lower your RTT and maintain weatherproof storage. Just have to keep the bikes on a rack.

Alex
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
Thats what I love about the cap/shell/camper etc. I can load up the truck full of gear and be relatively dry. Mine needs some refreshing, Probably new cap tape, seals on the rear door, and new urathane around the back windows. I am then going to get bedrug and carpet the fiberglass as well. Make it nicer inside...I also ahve to get the bed slide roof rack and "leer locker" device installed as well.
 

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