Overland F-150, Tacoma or?

clarkster

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Hello out there. I just joined this site and would like to comment on this thread.

I bought a new 2014 F-150 STX 4x4 5.0 short bed (6.5') and just mounted a 4 Wheel popup camper on it.
This camper is listed at 900# dry weight. By the time I added 2 group 24 batts, a solar panel, 20 gallons of water and all the gear, I guestimate close to 1300# or so.
The yellow doorjam sticker lists max payload at 1600 and change.

I had Firestone Ride-rite air bags installed and went to "E" rated Nitto Terra Grappler tires.
The ride quality from "P" rated tires to the "E" tires was barely discernible. Smooth and quiet, even with the more aggressive AT tires over all season tires.
I did lose 1 mpg fuel economy with that switch.

The airbags kept the truck slightly elevated in the rear.......just where I like it with running 30# PSI in those bags.
I run 50# PSI in the Nittos and the ride is smooth.

By far, this is the smoothest riding and the quietest over the road truck I have ever owned.
I lost about 2 MPG with the camper mounted and very little in ride quality. The truck is not a daily driver as I am a retired old fart who just likes to find out of the way fishing locations in the desert southwest (Colorado river lakes) and long journeys deep into Baja Mexico.

My vote is absolutely for the F-150.
The first photo is taking delivery in Primm NV and the second is the first shakedown of the camper at the Valley of Fire state park outside of Las Vegas about 50 miles.
 

justbecause

perpetually lost
"strong frame"
rules out the tacoma. you need to be looking at a nissan (fully boxed)

but as a 2011 pro4x frontier owner, I wish I had gone full size.

specifically I wish I had gotten a gas burner f250 (solid front axle) stock suspension would have done what I had go aftermarket to do. there are enough high clearance bumpers available to meet my needs. I could have utilized my full size roof rack on top of the camper shell, I would have gotten a bed big enough to be useful.
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
If tight spaces and going ultra light weight is your thing then you go with the smaller truck. If size is of no concern regarding trails or say parking in major cities with limited parking etc then its a better call to go full sized and the 250 / 2500 trucks give you far more capability at no cost to size increase over the 150 or 1500 rated trucks. Everything and everyone I have read and been told is if you plan on hauling a camper and you want to go full size just get the 250 or 2500 and be done with it. If your rarely hauling a camper and its your daily driver get the 150 and make it work for the occasional camper trips etc. The little Tacoma I like it for its size but the camper and gear you haul needs to be a very well thought out plan with weight always being the #1 concern the lighter you are with the little Tacoma the better it is and the guys who started out with the Tacoma but had lots of toys and stuff they like to haul all generally end up going full size if anything for the improved braking and stability of the larger platform etc.
 

Kytann

New member
As a former Tacoma owner and a current F150 owner, I feel like I can contribute.

With the Tacoma (1996 V6 Reg Cab) I always wanted more room. My seat was all of the way back, my legs were cramped, and my head was brushing the ceiling. And I'm only 5'11". Newer Tacomas are bigger, but mainly in the width department.

And that little bed on the Tacoma was always a limiting factor, and I tend to pack lightly. The shallow depth makes them much less usable than you might think. Factor in the weak payload specs and it's really more of a toy.

However the size made it like a mountain goat on the trails. I felt like I could climb over just about anything. So about the only time I was satisfied with the size, was when I was on the trail.

Pictures of the Tacoma here

Now with the F150 I bought it brand new, and currently the only regret I have is not getting the factory rear e-locker.
So not wanting to go too much longer than the Tacoma I was used to, and still being maneuverable in tight spaces, I ended up going with a Regular Cab Standard Bed. At a 126 inch wheelbase it's about as long and maneuverable as a Tacoma Extra Cab, with way more room inside the cab and bed. And I can seat three comfortably (versus four uncomfortably for the Tacoma).

Pictures of the F150 here

Currently setup very well for offroad. I've got decent articulation, good skid plates, Low center of gravity, Good clearance under the tires, good approach angle, decent departure angle, good turning radius. Sucky sightlines with the camper, but you should be expecting that.

As far as overlanding, My girl and I set up a queen size matteress in the bed and just slept under the canopy. With some blankets we were plenty warm camping at 12,000 foot elevation next to a snow bank. There's plenty of storage behind the front seats for a cooler and other supplies.
I plan on building some shelving into the celiing to use for clothes storage.
I also plan on experimenting with a sleeping platform and a smaller bed, still not sure if we want to go this route.
You might consider this type of setup first before going to a full camper. The only thing I don't have with this is running water and a toilet.

As far as the 250 goes. Just the fact that you're even considering the Tacoma tells me you probably don't need the weight carrying capability of the F250. I've been down that route, and between the solid front axle and the stiff suspension I hated driving it. This is from a guy who also drives sports cars, so I like stiffer suspension. But when you can't even have a cup of coffee on the way to work it sucks. Plus when I had my Rubicon I absolutely hated how slow I had to go off-road. The benefits of an independent front suspension are something you'll be enjoying every time you drive the vehicle.

On to some pictures.

First one is about a year or two ago. You can see the winch cable coming out of the bumper. You can also see how easily this truck fits into a standard parking space, especially compared to the Lexus ES300 next to it.

More recent pics show the bumper , topper, and Fender Flares
 

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Dr. Cornwallis

Adventurer
I have a Tacoma, however, I never have any intent of doing a camper or even towing anything very substantial with it. That being said, if I was going to be doing a bed camper I would definitely use either a Tundra or an F150. My Taco isn't exactly a powerhouse to begins with, when towing my lawn trailer with 1200 lb mower in the back it's definitely noticeable. A Tacoma will fit into some tight places an F150 or similar sized truck won't, though.

If I was buying a truck today an F150 XLT 4x4 Ecoboost or 5.0 would be a really tempting truck.


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stingray1300

Explorer
If you are over about 6'-0", you *may* find the Tacoma a bit cramped. The F150 has more cab room than the F250s!
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My personal bias does not void those points, but I too chose the F150. Now, if you spend the extra $1095 and get the EcoBoost, you'll se a modest rise in HP (or a monster rise in HP with a mild tune), a modest rise in mpg. But the 36 gallon gas tank comes with all EcoBoosts (not an option). What you will notice the most though, is when you tow or off-road with the EcoBoost. 411 ft lbs torque (stock) at...... 2500 rpms! I have a mild tune and have 430 HP and 450 torques. No affect on mpgs.
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Lots of aftermarket stuff available, just boils down to how much money you have:)
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But after the F150 the Taco would be my 2nd choice -over the Tundra, Chevy or Fiat (Dodge)
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Whatever you get, enjoy it!
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My rig in Alaska a few months ago:
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Kytann

New member
If you are over about 6'-0", you *may* find the Tacoma a bit cramped. The F150 has more cab room than the F250s!
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My personal bias does not void those points, but I too chose the F150. Now, if you spend the extra $1095 and get the EcoBoost, you'll se a modest rise in HP (or a monster rise in HP with a mild tune), a modest rise in mpg. But the 36 gallon gas tank comes with all EcoBoosts (not an option). What you will notice the most though, is when you tow or off-road with the EcoBoost. 411 ft lbs torque (stock) at...... 2500 rpms! I have a mild tune and have 430 HP and 450 torques. No affect on mpgs.
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Lots of aftermarket stuff available, just boils down to how much money you have:)
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But after the F150 the Taco would be my 2nd choice -over the Tundra, Chevy or Fiat (Dodge)
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Whatever you get, enjoy it!
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My rig in Alaska a few months ago:
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Great, another Ecoboost cheerleader ...



Just kidding. :elkgrin:
On the F150 forums the Ecoboost vs 5.0 V8 is a constant topic of discussion and argument.
The Eco wasn't even available in the short wheelbase configuration I wanted, so that made my decision easy.
But if it was, I would've still chosen the 5.0 Coyote V8. However, this isn't the place to get into that discussion.

I also don't think tuning a brand new vehicle is a good idea. I have had to use my factory warranty for an engine problem, and if I had a tune they likely would have denied coverage.
 

Kytann

New member
Also that reminds me, I took a picture of the space behind the front seats of my regular cab, to show how much room there in in there. They're just quick cell phone pictures, and the truck wasn't clean, but you get the idea.

First pic is my normal driving seat position
Second pic you can see the full cooler behind the seats. Which still leaves room to lean the seat back, or fit a larger cooler.
Behind the center seat is my subwoofer, and a toolbag with my winching supplies. (and various tools).

I just really like the usability of the regular cab. Small and maneuverable enough to fit on most trails, big enough to sleep comfortably in while hauling a weeks worth of supplies.
 

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mastersryan

Adventurer
That's a good amount of room for a reg cab. I love having my screw though the room is insane I am 6'4 and I can lay down IN my cab.
 

Raul B

Explorer
I like the f150 but I'm a Lil biased. Click on my build thread to see what I have done to mine ( in my sig)
 
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AFSOC

Explorer
Interesting thread. The resulting answer to the OP's question was quite overwhelming and decidedly "un-ExPo". If I were placing bets at the beginning of the thread, I'd have said this would be the traditional Expedition Portal Tacoma landslide. Not that I am anti Taco or Toyota but I am glad to see so many people using empirically based reasoning and making decisions based on realistic need and not on fashion or theoretical requirements.
 

justbecause

perpetually lost
Interesting thread. The resulting answer to the OP's question was quite overwhelming and decidedly "un-ExPo". If I were placing bets at the beginning of the thread, I'd have said this would be the traditional Expedition Portal Tacoma landslide. Not that I am anti Taco or Toyota but I am glad to see so many people using empirically based reasoning and making decisions based on realistic need and not on fashion or theoretical requirements.

Toyota made a name for itself a long time ago. But, IMHO if they don't bring some type of innovation or new value to the market they are going to start losing ground fast. Nissan has come a long way, ford has come a very long way.
Even dodge brought the eco diesel.
That new Colorado with 4 banger duramax sounds like it's going to be a real nice truck.

Until Toyota does something new, there are going to be a lot more threads like this.
 

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