Overland Frontier: The Great Canadian Expedition – Part 1: “Valley of the Ghosts”

mercier@streetsmart.ca

Expedition Scout
Great writeup and pics...
Looks like an epic place with some very cool history. I wonder how I would have done in those days under those conditions.
Thanks for taking us along

You know, I ask myself that all of the time, as I drive in my fully kitted out expedition vehicle - how did they do it with a canvas backpack, a pouch of beans, dried meat and a few tools. Your signature and profile suggest to me that you might have fit right in with these early adventurers. Thanks for your comments.
 

mercier@streetsmart.ca

Expedition Scout
Nice write up and trip report, thanks for the maps and photo logs. Were adding to our bucket list as were hope to pass thought this area in the summer of 2016.

Looking forward to the balance of the report.

This is one of my favourite regions that I go back to time and time again. As a result my free Scouting Reports on the website are more detailed than usual, so you may find them helpful in planning your own trip. Feel free to post or PM me if you have any questions. Maybe we will run into each other in 2016. Thanks for your comments.
 

mercier@streetsmart.ca

Expedition Scout
Leg 8: Retallack to Sandon - Retracing Rails & Trails to Alpine Mines They Served

Invigorated by finding the Over–the-top trail after three attempts, we decided to double back and wallow in the experience and complete the “Valley of the ghosts” exploration.

We retraced the paths blazed by two railways racing to the heart of BC’s “Silvery Slocan”, along two deep valleys and up the mountainsides using the wagon roads built as feeders to the alpine mines above. The little American Kaslo & Slocan short line was built as a narrow gauge and backed by the Great Northern. The one foot eight inches meant the line could have much sharper turning radius, an important factor for a line which had to cling to the side of mountain with the aid of 37 bridges and trestles that could be smaller, shorter and lighter, as could the rails themselves – all important when trying to catch up to the Canadian Pacific that had a jump start.

Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 6-7 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

So much occurred in this region but relics and trails have become overgrown as they are slowly being reclaimed by nature. Dropping back down from the Reco Mountain Over-the-top trail put us right near the summit of the ‘Valley of the Ghost’s, a favorite dispersed camp region near Fish and Bear Lake, a region attracting Overlanders since recorded history and surely well before by natives.

Dropping back down from the Reco Mountain Over-the-top trail put us right near the summit of the ‘Valley of the Ghost’s, s favorite dispersed camp region near Fish and Bear Lake, a region attracting Overlanders since recorded history and surely well before by natives.


Fish Lake by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Dispersed Camping above Fish Lake by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

We discovered many feeder wagon roads from the rail lines and merchant wagon roads to explore on both sides of the valley, still in use after 120 years.


Kalso Merchant Wagon Road by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 10 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

From the valley summit, we traveled along the abandoned railway line past the mining camp of Zincton, named in honour of the ore discovered in the region that not only included Silver and Lead but Zinc. The Lucky Jim Mine operated until the forty’s and the resulting collection of buildings, in large part, led to the regions moniker of ‘Valley of the Ghosts’. Due to safety, the dilapidated structures were burnt and all that remains are ruins.


Lucky Jim Upper Tram by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Abandoned railway past Lucky Jim Mine by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Scouting Report Page 20 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Just past Zincton, we explored an overgrown trail that was once a major thoroughfare that shot up the up the steep slope to the rich mines of Payne Mountain. We traveled up and along McGuigan Creek, on an old wagon road built to reach the site of the first discovery of the “Silvery Slocan”. We had the good fortune to be introduced to this trail by the operators Rod and Tracy owners of Top Down Tour, of Kalso. The bridge over Seaton Creek is long gone but the creek is generally easy to cross in late summer and fall. However, the route starts with a series of bolder-strewn switchbacks and some light bushwhacking before the trail opens up.

The wagon road we followed runs along a steep and long tramline that once carried rich ore down this steep slope. It is easy to see why the freight wagons were replaced with a more effective means of delivering ore to the railway below.


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 23 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Tight tree and brush cover became less of a problem as we traveled up-mountain. However, the ledge road does get very narrow in one spot (below), making it impossible for full sized vehicles to pass. It was just wide enough for a Grand Cherokee. A slip down this ledge would likely be catastrophic. In addition, the narrow point crosses a small stream that during spring break up could erode the road and or would be an impassable waterfall.


Payne Mine and Rambler-Cariboo Wagon Trail by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

We followed the Payne Mine Road until we reached the site of Washington Mine, the highest mill built in the region where we followed the trail split East to the alpine Rambler-Cariboo Mine. The significance of what we were climbing and what these early miners encountered came into view, as we looked across the valley towards the Goat Range and the London Ridge Mine road the switchbacks its way to the top.


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 26-27 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 29 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

As we climbed further up the mountain trail we could see that the switchback trail went past the London Ridge Mine and crested over the top into a alpine basin we are told is a magnet for grizzly bears looking to fatten up before retreating to their winter dens.


Trail to Rambler-Cariboo Mine by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


London Ridge Swithchback Trail by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Our group parked at the Tommy Moore Mine, and hiked up the last stretch to the Rambler-Cariboo Mine and beyond to the mountain ridge above so we could take in the incredible views in every direction.


Tommy Moore Mine Mine Tramline by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Tommy Moore Mine from Rambler-Cariboo Mine Trail by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 36-37 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Having made our way back down the mountain trail, we followed the valley floor along the Nakusp & Slocan railroad and the old merchant wagon road below Payne Bluff, to the ghost town of Sandon, once the heart of the Silvery Slocan mining bonanza. When the feisty little American K&S Railway discovered that the Canadian Pacific had built a station on their right of way in Sandon, they wrapped a chain around it and pulled it down with Engine #1.


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 47 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 48 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 49 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

The Kaslo & Slocan only lasted 15 years, but it and the rivalry between the Nakusp & Slocan, is one of the most exciting and colorful parts of the ‘Silvery Slocan’ history and a route worth revisiting. The narrow gauge rails enabled the engineers to build the K&S with the tightest curve and the second steepest grade in Canada. The bridges at Payne Bluff are best reached from Sandon. The first 2.3 kilometers of the of the 5.5 kilometer trail can be driven, but the remaining trail has to be hiked or biked passing Altona Mine and Payne Mine Concentrator before reaching Trestle 21 an 22 along the infamous 1000’ foot cliff they once bridged.


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 53 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Altona Mine on the Kaslo and Slocan Railway by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 59 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 51 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Trek Leg 8 Scout Report Page 63 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

After touring Payne Bluff, hikers and rock scramblers can carry on to McGuigan along the Rambler-Cariboo Mine trail or double back to the starting point. Our group chose to hike down the switchback trail to Three Forks ghost town site where we had attached some mountain bikes so we could travel down the old Nakusp & Slocan railway line to New Denver. But that is another story we will reserve for our next post in this thread.

If this trail and region interests you, go to our website and view the 64 page Scout Report on-line or download a copy to your device for free. The report is full of photos, route history, old and new maps.

http://www.overlandfrontier.com/trek-legs/retallack-sandon

You can also download our free GPS/GPX Tracklog file to help plan your own self-guided expedition, however we did not have a GPS device when we explored the segment up the Rambler-Cariboo trail, but the trail head is marked on our GPX Tracklog. We have also flagged the trailhead to the London Ridge.

http://www.overlandfrontier.com/trek-series/british-columbia-slocan-valley-ghosts-series

Thanks for traveling along.
 

mercier@streetsmart.ca

Expedition Scout
Thanks for posting, you have inspired me to explore more of BC. Any trips planned in November?

Just got back from a trip to US, that got cut short when someone offered to buy our flagship expedition vehicle. This will give me a chance to post more scouting reports on OverlandFrontier.com from expeditions we have completed but not fully documented. Will be posting alerts on our Facebook page, of new trips - more BC soon.
 
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zelatore

Explorer
Wow, outstanding job with the write up. Better than many professional trail guides. I'm guessing you have a background in this sort of thing?
 

mercier@streetsmart.ca

Expedition Scout
Wow, outstanding job with the write up. Better than many professional trail guides. I'm guessing you have a background in this sort of thing?

Dan, trying to make it a profession, as I enter semi-retirement, by learning to do my own photography, creative layout and writing - something I observed working in marketing research most of my career. Thirty years ago, I started researching forgotten overland trails with a interesting past that could be retraced in a 4WD vehicle, on foot, bike or horseback. I could always find historical records, some with old maps and photos, but very few with current topographic maps, photos and activities, all in one source – hence OverlandFrontier.com. Thanks for taking the time to provide encouragement - motivates me to keep trying, as I have so much to learn yet.
 
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mercier@streetsmart.ca

Expedition Scout
Leg 9: Sandon Ghost Town & The Trails of Idaho Peak

It is easy to get lured to into spending several days exploring the trails in and around the heart of the Silvery Slocan, the ghost town of Sandon. This is particularly true if you enjoy regions with a colourful storied past. For me, historical photographs and maps quickly illustrate the significance of what transpired here and provide context as I encounter surviving relics. This region is so rich that extensive background coverage is provided in two Scouting Reports, Trek Leg 8 and 9.


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Leg 9 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 17 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 18 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Sandon City Hall by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Sandon store repurposed as a museum by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Silversmith Mine Powerhouse in Sandon by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Red Light District Ruins in Sandon by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 21 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 22 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Fire hydrants built high for winter snows by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 29 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


1900 Decorated Fire Shed in Upper Gulch Sandon by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Idaho Peak lookout provides incredible panoramas are most often reserved for alpine hikers and backpackers that have put in a Herculean effort. Idaho Peak, thanks to old mining and forestry roads, makes it readily available to everyone. The road travels sharply up the mountain in a westerly direction on the south side of Sandon. It is easy to distinguish as it is most traveled. Other old mining trails that fan off can be explored if they are not closed due to mining activity. Be aware that some of these trails include long narrow ledge sections with little room to turn around, and you may run into private active mine workings that are closed to public access.


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 49 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 51 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Wakefield Mine Trailhead by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Bike Wakefield Mine downhill, an advanced trail with considerable exposure down very steep slopes. Some sections are best walked as the trails are very narrow and the incredible views distracting. The single track ends at the hikers parking lot, but the two-track over old mining roads (below) can be taken right into Silverton. Allow 1.5 to 3 hours. Watch for rare hikers, deadfall and explore interesting mining relics along the way. Visit BikePirate.com for detailed information and gpx/ kmz file downloads.


Wakefield Trail and Four Mile Creek Wagon Road to Silverton by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Wakefield Mine Trail Wagon Road and uphill hike. There is a wide network of old mining trails that can be explored from Silverton. Driving the serene Wakefield Wagon Road (Four Mile Creek Road) is worth exploring in and of itself. The trail evolves to a single track, a steep uphill hike to the top of Idaho Peak - watch for downhill mountain-bikers (see Trek Leg 10).


Wakefield Mine Wagon Road (Four Mile Creek Road) by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

Idaho Peak hike from the upper parking lot a hiking trail (no bikes) can be taken to the Idaho Peak lookout, which is an easy hike with moderate gradient with only an elevation gain of 200 meters but some steep drop offs are encountered along the way. Allow 45 minutes one-way. A longer hike can be taken from the first parking lot.


Idaho Peak Hiking Trail by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Idaho Peak by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Lower Idaho Peak Trail in the background by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Idaho Peak Ledge Trail by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Idaho Peak view overlooking New Denver and Valhalla Range by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Idaho Peak view overlooking Silverton and Valhalla Range by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Idaho Peak Trail overlooking Kookanee Glacier by Overland Frontier, on Flickr


Overland Frontier Scouting Report Page 60 by Overland Frontier, on Flickr

To download the complete free Scouting Report or view on-line, go to:

http://www.overlandfrontier.com/trek-legs/sandon-trails-idaho-peak
 

R33F

New member
This is fantastic, I love your website. It will help me see some cool places this season.
Thanks for sharing.

I too am looking to get into the expedition business, I'm a chef and would
like to make a modern version of a chuck wagon to cook for small groups on expeditions.
It's still in the planning stages. But it's getting there.

Good luck with all you endeavors! Very inspiring!

Greg
 

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