People think pulleys increase pulling power.

MOguy

Explorer
If you are rigging up for some mechanical advantage should you use cable and regular shackles or rope and soft shackles and why?

Just kidding, don't answer this question.
 

luthj

Engineer In Residence
Steel cable and synthetic cable are just different materials. Understand the limits of the equipment as rated by the MFG, and stick to them. For most applications in vehicle winching a synthetic cable and soft shackle has significant benefits, and minimal downsides.
 

shade

Well-known member
Interesting video.
A guy speaking an Ocker style sounds authoritative, yet spends alot of time blabbering about treestraps and safety practices. Yet skips over description of power flow and how it works.
Then, shows very little of his riggings working beyond basically pulling slack out of the system.
I saw another one that annoyed me more, so I went with that one.

I thought it made enough sense for someone to get the general idea, but if you find a better example of "reverse winching", please post it.
 

shade

Well-known member
Steel cable and synthetic cable are just different materials. Understand the limits of the equipment as rated by the MFG, and stick to them. For most applications in vehicle winching a synthetic cable and soft shackle has significant benefits, and minimal downsides.
Oh, we're being serious now? I mixed my threads up.

Without entering into mortal combat, I think we'll continue to see synthetic products slowly replace steel, but there will always be a place for steel. I try to buy and use synthetic, but I'll always have some steel shackles around.
 

luthj

Engineer In Residence
Oh, we're being serious now? I mixed my threads up.

Without entering into mortal combat, I think we'll continue to see synthetic products slowly replace steel, but there will always be a place for steel. I try to buy and use synthetic, but I'll always have some steel shackles around.

Sure, it doesn't need a be a religious type one over the other argument. Composite/plastic materials are slowly replacing metals (have been since about 1970) in many applications. Heck the newest Airbus and Boeing aircraft have replaced large sections of the fuselage with composites. Its just better than aluminum.

I do have a bad habit of making facetious discussions turn serious without warning...
 

shade

Well-known member
Sure, it doesn't need a be a religious type one over the other argument. Composite/plastic materials are slowly replacing metals (have been since about 1970) in many applications. Heck the newest Airbus and Boeing aircraft have replaced large sections of the fuselage with composites. Its just better than aluminum.
I changed my mind.

You're wrong, and those black plastic airplanes are part of the frog conspiracy.
 

shade

Well-known member
Yes, I think we're all familiar with the interrelationship between the FSM, pirates, and global temperatures. No need to belabour established facts about the universe.

What may interest the assembly is the now proven correlation between hobos and the force imparted on a southbound wound length of synthetic winch line when used in conjunction with winch snatch rings. Research on northbound orientations is still underway and shows promise of supporting a Grand Unified Winch Theory, but I think we can all agree that the completion of the Hobo Codex marks one of mankind's highest achievements in this or any field of endeavour.

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luthj

Engineer In Residence
So, do I need to sacrifice a chicken? or is okay to wrap the line backwards as long as my teams dedicated hobo is south of the ley line? or is that just downwind?
 

shade

Well-known member
So, do I need to sacrifice a chicken?

That is entirely dependent on sunspot activity. As you well know.

or is okay to wrap the line backwards as long as my teams dedicated hobo is south of the ley line?

Sure! The hobos I work with all prefer a retrograde line orientation for obvious reasons, but they all bring their expertise to bear when attending to the rigging. If the Hobo Codex is closely followed, many tertiary orientations are possible, but they all rely on a firm understanding of the relationship between the Anura and their use of amplexus. This was well documented by Duméril in his l’Erpétologie générale ou Histoire naturelle complète des reptiles, vol. 3.

or is that just downwind?

Now you're just being silly.
 

luthj

Engineer In Residence
Cool, I always though the core principles of amplexus were used on the turbo-encabulator? Hence its inherent suppression by the deep state. Otherwise we would all have one!

 

shade

Well-known member
Cool, I always though the amplexus was used on the turbo-encabulator?

Common mistake. GM tried to take the lead on this, but got bogged down with their bifurcated phase delector/recolluminator dead end. What were they thinking?

Hey, we've all been there. It's taken me years to get familiar with amplexus, and it's still not something I'm completely comfortable with.
 

shade

Well-known member
There's nothing wrong about firmly embracing a hobo.

Proof that some things are better left alone:

 

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