Pleasure-Way Excel TS

zip

I prefer social distancing.
This appears to be my next, and hopefully last vehicle I buy.
I love what UJOR has done with these vehicles, and I would like them to do the conversion.
They have done OX rear lockers, with manual engagement.
They don’t recommend front locker.
Looking for constructive input on manual versus air locker, and front locker.
Thanks for the benefit of the infinite wisdom and guidance of the group.
 

zip

I prefer social distancing.
Ujoint does offer lockers for the front axles. https://www.ujointoffroad.com/product/dana-60-stage-2/
Did they suggest a front locker wouldn't be a good choice for your specific build? If so they probably have good reason. I doubt there's anyone that has done more Econoline 4x4 conversions than Chris.
Iggi,
When I inquired, I was told it could be done, but not recommended. I believe the reason was that there could be the possibility for severe damage to the drive train in certain situations.
I didn't question their recommendation, because I feel they are the best at what they do.
Thanks for your input.
 

iggi

Ian
Interesting that they'd make that recommendation. There's plenty of much heavier rigs with full locking differentials. I plan to put a Dana TrueTrac or similar in the front axle of mine when I get around to the 4x4 conversion.
 

zip

I prefer social distancing.
Interesting that they'd make that recommendation. There's plenty of much heavier rigs with full locking differentials. I plan to put a Dana TrueTrac or similar in the front axle of mine when I get around to the 4x4 conversion.
I think there was a concern on a hard packed surface, with a tight turn, something could break?
 

iggi

Ian
I think there was a concern on a hard packed surface, with a tight turn, something could break?
Absolutely. Locking diffs require wide awake driving. However, the TrueTrac is a limited slip, not a locker. That being said, I doubt you'd want to drive that PleasureWay anywhere that you'd actually need a front locker.
 

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We don't like the OX lockers up front because of the diff cover clearance to the tie rod. Restricts the steering and the cable routing is hard to do cleanly. E lockers (what we've done in the past) have had some quality issues recently so that's a good enough reason to avoid them. For the rear we like the mechanical OX lever but would run air if that's what you prefer just haven't done it yet.

Had too many issues with ARBs leaking internally so we stopped offering them. The OX air option is external to the locker, much simpler.

I like the true trac because its an aggressive L/S and will get the van out of any situation you're brave enough to put a 4x4 van in. Some guys insist on having a front locker, I prefer a full time or selectable in the rear and a good L/S up front. No steering wheel fight, both tires are getting traction, the L/S acts as the fuse in the F axle in case of different wheel speeds, not the axle shafts.

Hope this helps explain!
 

zip

I prefer social distancing.
We don't like the OX lockers up front because of the diff cover clearance to the tie rod. Restricts the steering and the cable routing is hard to do cleanly. E lockers (what we've done in the past) have had some quality issues recently so that's a good enough reason to avoid them. For the rear we like the mechanical OX lever but would run air if that's what you prefer just haven't done it yet.

Had too many issues with ARBs leaking internally so we stopped offering them. The OX air option is external to the locker, much simpler.

I like the true trac because its an aggressive L/S and will get the van out of any situation you're brave enough to put a 4x4 van in. Some guys insist on having a front locker, I prefer a full time or selectable in the rear and a good L/S up front. No steering wheel fight, both tires are getting traction, the L/S acts as the fuse in the F axle in case of different wheel speeds, not the axle shafts.

Hope this helps explain!

And that’s why you are the best!
Thanks.
 

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