I know 450 allocation is different than 250s and 350s, so this may be apples to oranges. I ordered my 250 in October, and received it in May. I was told January or February delivery, but I knew going in that I wouldn’t be that lucky. I ordered a Tremor with Lariat Black package and gooseneck prep pack. All 3 of those were extremely high demand and low supply. I could’ve dropped to a Lariat without the black pack, gone FX4, and added a B&W ball after the fact and knocked 3-4 months off my wait. I did order from a large dealer and ended up slightly more than $9K off MSRP. I got mine at invoice pricing as of October 21’. MSRP climbed 3 times since then until I picked it up. My invoice pricing was $5K below MSRP at the time of order, and $9K at the time of delivery. They didn’t want to honor it, but they did.