Ranger Raptor testing in Flagstaff

Could be. I have read that they believe pricing would be too close to the F150 raptor and they could cannibalize each other sales. Would be a great competitor to the ZR2 and TRD Pro though. Who knows. Just wait and see. Just figured I'd share the update I saw.
 
Could be. I have read that they believe pricing would be too close to the F150 raptor and they could cannibalize each other sales. Would be a great competitor to the ZR2 and TRD Pro though. Who knows. Just wait and see. Just figured I'd share the update I saw.
I think this is exactly the issue. The midsize Raptor will cannibalize the full-size sales.

IMHO, this is just another example of the irrationality of midsize pricing industry wide.
 
When I built a Ranger on Ford's site then built an F-150 to compare, the Ranger came out about $9,000 cheaper. That's still a pretty decent amount.

However, if there's huge rebates on the F150... (like there is every year) that gap would shrink quite a bit. Because I'm thinking it'll be doubtful we'll decent rebates on the Ranger for quite a while.
 
I spent some time building and pricing on the two models as well. It's hard to get a really comparable spec between the two because options packages are so different and there are so many more options available on the F150. I kept coming back to about $5k more for the 150 witht he spec matching as close as possible feature by feature. That's enough to make a difference, but because it's smaller than the discounts that you often see on the 150s, things get weird fast. I suspect it will take about a year before you see any money on the hood of a Ranger just because it's new and will be fairly hot. Now, does that mean they won't be as quick to discount a 150 $10k? could be. They suddenly have decent reasons to decrease the $/off on the full size, thereby making a little more. Can't afford the F150 with only $5k off? well, here, let me show you this Ranger at $1000 off. You end up buying a Ranger for the same thing you could have bought the 150 for currently, but it eliminates the price overlap issue AND makes them more money.

Having said all that, a well-outfitted Ranger 4dr FX4 with a towing package MSRPs for $35k. By the end of next year if you can give it to me for $30k I would be seriously considering it, depending on what the Bronco comes out looking like and costing.

As for the Ranger Raptor, I do think the FoMoCo person was talking about the diesel, which is fine. I would love to see the US Ranger Raptor slimmed up a little and running the 2.7L V6 Ecoboost. I don't know if the chassis will have the width to hold the V6 though. I do know the 2.3 can be built to make a LOT of power, but the tighter you tune it, the more it worries me.
 
Price of ALL trucks, mid sized & full sized is out of control. You can build a 1 ton CC for $93,000+ & mid sized for $50,000. $73,000 for a new loaded up Ultra Platinum 1/2 ton.

Technology & liability has become a double edged sword.
 
My CC truck was $38 000. If built online I think it's $44 000. You have to be really smart with options, and consider cost's of building lower models. Are you building a truck for camping, or are you building a truck replacement for a BMW M5?

The good deals are on the lots. A lightly spec'd XL was more online than loaded XL's at the lots.
 
The FX4 package looks to be pretty nice, and is probably overkill for most needs.

Shame Ford doesn't offer a manual transmission option.
 
Not at all. I use my elocker every weekend. Skid plates aren't AR500 or anything, but are enough for what I do.
Something tells me your usage style is way to the right of the bell curve. :)

But basically the point is the same: FX4 package is a good alternative to the Raptor package.
 
I think this is exactly the issue. The midsize Raptor will cannibalize the full-size sales.

Not sure why that would be a problem, if you're taking sales away from the other manufactures. Does it matter if they sell a few less F150's when the consumer buys a Ranger over a Tacoma or GM twins? Keeping it in the family would be a good thing to me.

The mid-size buyer is different than the fullsize buyer. They are convinced that the mid-sizes are better wheelers, in town run-a-bouts, and commuters...they aren't really but they think they are.
 
Disagree own a '11 Raptor and '10 taco reg cab manual. Night and day difference in parking and driving in tight congested areas. Taco does everything I need it to just less comfortable for long highway trips and far less towing capacity.
 
I wiggle a DRW through tight congested areas all the time. If I fit, I fit. I only need a couple inches. The rest is driver skill. The only time I consider a midsize better, is if it's impossible to fit a midsize there.

As far as actually parking, I have no interest in parkingany of my personal vehicles, even my little jeep in a congested area. I'll just walk in if it's a small country down town. Or park remotely and bus in if it's a big city, or park in a know big lot, and walk or bus around. No big deal.

I draw the line at long trailers in tight congested areas. I like being able to make right hand turns.
 
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Price of ALL trucks, mid sized & full sized is out of control. You can build a 1 ton CC for $93,000+ & mid sized for $50,000. $73,000 for a new loaded up Ultra Platinum 1/2 ton.

Technology & liability has become a double edged sword.

You can still build and buy 1 ton's for $50k, sometimes less.

Those $93k 1 ton's aren't actually worth $93k IMO; they're basically $50k trucks with $43k worth of features added. The poor SOB who buys that truck is going see a lot value lost during the first few years of ownership.
 

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