Reliability - Phoenix Pop Up Camper Vs. Four Wheel Camper

[Pest]

Settle down guys & gals. Not commercial bio-degradable soaps. My soap is made out clay, goats or whole milk, olive oil, coconut oil, Castrol oil & shea butter. Drinkable but tastes horrible. Its more of a clay bar body scrub. Leaves a slight film but works. Any way back to the topic.

It doesn't matter what the soap is made out of. It is still chemicals that do not consist of H2O.

Who would poor oil or clay or milk into water and then drink it?

LNT is very clear about not bathing in water sources. Very black and white, no grey.

Sure, I may be "that jerk" that jumps down your throat, but its very serious. Its quite easy to haul a few gallons of water to your campsite, 200 feet away and shower there.

 

[18seeds]

But I will say that I am amazed by how many couple year old Phoenix's come up for sale, at very discounted prices.

I'd agree here is a good example http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/2489728344.html

 

[Stan@FourWheel]

Hey Runt

We have a small dealer in the Vancouver, BC area in case you would like to see a four wheel camper up close & in person.

See our contact us / dealer listing page here . . .


http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/contact.htm


Sometimes he is a bit hard to get ahold of (because of his delivery schedule), but keep trying, he will get back with you if you leave your number and e-mail address.


I usually try and recomend to customers looking at different camper brands to see the campers (whatever manfs. you are looking at) in person so you can make an educated decesion on what will be best for you and your needs.

It is really hard if not impossible to see the camper styles, floorplans, layout, fit & finsh, etc. just by looking at different websites.


Happy Camping !





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[Overland Hadley]

I'd agree here is a good example http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/2489728344.html

Was $18,500 new, just a few months old..... $9,000 price

I have seen a few Phoenix's go like this.

It would take a FWC 10-15 years to have that much depriciation. Although we all agree it is crazy how much the used ones sell for, but that is the value they are holding.

 

[Runt]

Ha....ha that was funny. Not trying to be a ******** either....I laughed. Got to find some sort of humor in this

 

[Overland Hadley]

I'll take $9,000 for mine!!!

I mean $9,000 CDN

I mean 50% of cost new.

So what is half of what your camper cost new 15 years ago? I bet you could sell it for that.

 

[Northern Explorer]

I'd agree here is a good example http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/2489728344.html

"Awesome little camper. Lost the Jeep, so I have to sell the Pop up."

Sounds like financial problems to me(just a guess). Someone is going to get a good camper at a good price.

 

[18seeds]

the phone number appears to be the owners of Phoenix.

 

[cwsqbm]

LNT is very clear about not bathing in water sources. Very black and white, no grey.

Better tell the fish and local wildlife to get out of the streams and lakes. Also, what about the rocks and dirt on the bottoms of those lakes and streams?

The world is gray - black and white are just man's inventions.

 

[Pest]

Better tell the fish and local wildlife to get out of the streams and lakes. Also, what about the rocks and dirt on the bottoms of those lakes and streams?

The world is gray - black and white are just man's inventions.

Show me where leave no trace talks about wildlife having regulations for travel in their own environment..? Leave no trace is for PEOPLE to take the best care of the land as possible. I don't see how this is so hard to understand, and for people to follow.

 

[Runt]

Recieved info from FWC Canada & Phoenix Campers

Hello every one

I recently received information on details from manufacturers. Appears that FWC is well over booked. Delivery of a new camper will not happen this season……there just to busy. Phoenix can build one this season. Cost is comparable. Have reviewed frame design and it's impossible for me to ascertain which is better or worse or if they are comparable for that matter. I totally agree with Kalahanie. There does seems to be some supply vs. demand economics that greatly affects FWC re-sale and Phoenix seems to add those custom touches that some may find odd therefore reducing value. If any one knows of any other threads that may have FWC or Phoenix frame pictures would be very helpful.

Best regards