Remington 700: Defective Trigger Issue

Dave Bennett

Adventurist
http://www.drinnonlaw.com/Texas-Defective-Remington700.php

Defective Remington 700 Bolt-Action Rifles

Remington's Defective Trigger System
A Historical Summary

Extensive Claims and Litigation History

1. Remington has been aware that its bolt-action rifles will sometimes fire absent a trigger pull.

2. To date, Remington has received thousands of customer complaints of unintended discharge for the Model 700 and 710 alone. Over 100 injured individuals have sued Remington over the same defective design. Remington and its insurers have paid to settle most of the claims rather than admit the defect and pay the cost of a recall and refit thereby leaving millions of persons at risk of their lives and those of their family and friends. click on here to review Remington memo January 2, 1979 wherein Remington admits to its own defect and recognizes the danger to its customers)

3. Ignoring thousands of customer complaints, Remington refused to recall its rifles, install a new trigger, or warn its customers of the potential danger. (click on here to review Remington memo dated January 2, 1979 wherein Remington admits to its own defect and recognizes the danger to its customers)

4. Instead, Remington designed the new 710 (introduced in 2001) using the very same defective M700 fire control.

5. Not surprisingly, Remington has already received numerous complaints from its customers of unintended discharge, mirroring the complaint history of the 700.

The Defect

1. Remington's trigger mechanism uses an internal component called a “connector” – a design component not used by any other rifle manufacturer. The connector floats on top of the trigger body inside of the gun, but is not physically bound to the trigger in any way other than tension from a spring. When the trigger is pulled, the connecter is pushed forward by the trigger, allowing the sear to fall and fire the rifle.

2. The proper position of the connector under the sear is an overlap of only 25/1000ths of an inch, but because the connector is not bound to the trigger, the connector separates from the trigger body when the rifle is fired and creates a gap between the two parts.

3. Any dirt, debris or manufacturing scrap can then become lodged in the space created between the connector and the trigger, preventing the connector from returning to its original position.

4. Remington's defective fire control could have been redesigned to eliminate the harm or danger very inexpensively. There is no valid engineering reason why the successfully utilized connectorless designs could not have been used by Remington in its Model 700 and 710.

5. In fact, Remington has recently done just that for the Model 700 with a newly designed trigger, the X-Mark Pro. That design, which eliminates the connector, was completed in 2002. However, Remington chose to continue with its prior unsafe design for financial reasons, never warning the public. Even today, Remington installs the new fire control into some but not all of its bolt-action rifles, leaving many users at risk with the old and defective design.

Jury Verdicts and Appellate Court Opinions of Remington's Defective Fire Control

1. In Lewy v. Remington, 836 F.2d 1104, 1106-07 (8th Cir. 1988); the Eighth Circuit upheld a finding of punitive damages against Remington in 1985.

2. In Campbell v. Remington Arms Co., 1992 WL 54928 (9th Cir. 1992)(unpublished opinion); affirmed a jury verdict of $724,000 based on a fire on bolt closure, finding no error.

3. Later in 1992, the Texas Supreme Court, in Chapa v. Garcia, specifically describes Remington's fire control as “defective.”

4. In 1994, a Texas jury rendered a verdict in Collins v. Remington after Glenn Collins lost this foot to a Model 700 accidental discharge. The jury found that the fire control was defective and awarded a $15 million in exemplary damages. The total verdict was in excess of $17 million. (click on here to review Business Week article entitled “Remington Faces A Misfiring Squad”)

5. The verdicts stopped with the Collins verdict. After that, Remington settled all claims. Instead of recalling or replacing the defective fire control, Remington has quietly paid almost $20 million to settle claims out of court, finally replacing the fire control only in 2007.

Remington's Redesign Efforts After the $17 million Collins Verdict

1. After Collins, Remington again contemplated a recall and again recognized the need to redesign its fire control. Internal documents detail Remington's extensive knowledge of the problem. However, until it finally introduced a new fire control in 2007 (a design that eliminates the connector), Remington consistently chose to forego a safer design.

Timeline of Redesign Efforts

1. In 1995, Remington openly acknowledges the need to “fix” the fire control and “eliminate” ‘Fire on Safety Release' malfunction.”

2. In 1997, when Remington embarked on the design of the Model 710, documents reflect Remington's desire not to include the M700 “Walker” –based fire control in the M710.

3. Remington designers then developed several connectorless fire controls for the M710. Remington documents clearly show that the new designs were favored (“The new concept barrel and fire control analysis was complete with excellent results.”)

4. However, the designs met their downfall during Remington's economic analysis. Project spending was put on hold in May 1998 “until economics and project is approved.” That approval never came. In August 1998, the safer designs were abandoned due to an “estimated cost increase.”

5. Remington instead decided to pull the unsafe Model 700 fire control off the shelf and use it in the new Model 710 to “eliminate development cost and time.”

6. As Remington began its internal testing of the new Model 710 (with the old Model 700 fire control installed), Remington, knowing the history of the design, warned its internal testers of the possibility of inadvertent discharge;
For each of the four rounds in the magazine the tester will close the bolt “smartly” –(i.e. as quickly as practical” –and be prepared for the rifle to inadvertently follow down or fire).

No such warning is provided to customers that purchase the Model 700 or 710, nor was such a warning given to the Barber parents, whose son died as the result of the trigger defect.

1. In 2000, a Model 710 rifle fired on bolt closure during Remington's testing. Remington's own expert witness in litigation admits that Remington “could not nail down” the reason for the discharge without a trigger pull.


Predictably, Remington began receiving reports of injury and accidental discharge from the Model 710 almost identical to the thousands of complaints it had received from the Model 700 soon after its release.

APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILLION DEFECTIVELY DESIGNED REMINGTON TRIGGERS ARE STILL BEING TRUSTED AND USED BY THE UNSUSPECTING AMERICAN SPORTSMAN.
 
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Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
Model 700s are fine rifles - among the most accurate and popular rifles made. The claims made by the lawyers in the suit do not reflect my experience with Remington... they have readily updated their firearms and no company is going to continue a design that creates a liability. That's crazy.

Got any stats on HOW MANY accidental or 'uncaused' discharges there have been?
 

tdesanto

Expedition Leader
Isn't the Army's M24 and the Marines' M40 based on the 700? I wonder if they've noticed issues too?
 

ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
I worked behind the counter and in the back room of a shop on and off for nearly a decade. The only time that I've ever seen a Remington 700 fire on bolt closure or by impact to the rifle's butt-pad was when someone had monkeyed with the original trigger settings or thought that they were a gunsmith and had done a "trigger job" on it.
 

Mr. Leary

Glamping Excursionaire
Correct me if I'm wrong. The rifle will malfunction if it isn't kept clean?

Are there any statistics pointing to the condition of the models that msfire?
 

T-hacha-P

Observer
"Isn't the Army's M24 and the Marines' M40 based on the 700? I wonder if they've noticed issues too?"

By coincidence, I happened to be reading one of the cases referenced above yesterday. One of Remington's defenses is that the M40's fire control system is identical to the 700's, and the military has not had problems.

I can't speak as to whether that is true. I don't know enough about it to offer an opinion on the defectiveness of the fire control system, but this reinforces what my Marine father drilled into my head from an early age: every time you pick it up, clear it, double check, and never point it at anything you are not prepared to destroy. Unfortunately, doing everything right doesn't matter if your hunting buddy never learned (can you tell I'm taking a first timer out dove hunting today?--he's getting my dad's lecture--"sweep me with your muzzle and I'll assume you're trying to kill me, and I'll shoot you first.")
 

snipecatcher

Adventurer
I've blown a hole in the floorboard of my stepdad's truck with a Remington Mohawk 600. I don't know if it uses the same trigger, but it probably does. My stepdad had just picked up my stepbrother and myself from our morning hunt, and we had just parked at camp. I noticed the bolt was still closed on my stepbrother's rifle, and figured it was loaded, so I went to open the bolt to unload it. BOOM! I had just clicked off the safety and started to lift the bolt handle when it happened. A couple of years later, he heard of a recall for that model of rifle in the serial number range of his rifle. He sent it in and they fixed something and sent it back. If you've never had a gun go off unintentionally like that, it's a real eye opener! The 243 bullet pretty much disintegrated on the top of the frame. No harm done, luckily.
-Dan
 

isaac

Observer
Just found this thread...

As a Remington 700 owner with a non-defective "x mark" trigger, I want to make sure every 700 owner with the original Walker-design trigger assembly is aware this is a real issue. Anybody saying it's bull****, the military isn't having problems, best rifle in the world, never had a problem with mine etc.... you are welcome to your opinion but you are wrong. This is easy to research. Many people injured and killed due to unintended Remington 700 firing without trigger pull, weapon goes off while closing bolt, flicking off safety etc. and absolutely does NOT require botched trigger job or dropping the weapon.

Sifting through the various extreme opinions on this issue polluting the internet, this seems like one of the best summaries:

http://www.drinnonlaw.com/Texas-Defective-Remington700.php

Form your own opinion. I have no skin in the game. But ignorance is just that.

- Isaac
 

007

Explorer
I've seen enough misfires by an assortment of manufacturers to know that corrosion and crud can cause all sorts of mishaps.

Even a clean rifle is not somehow exempt from mechanical failure.

I treat every gun as if it were loaded and could go off at any time.

If a loaded gun goes off in my hands and hurts somebody, its my fault for pointing it at them.
 

User_Name

Adventurer
If you want to educate yourself, read this page and it will explain it from a gunsmiths point of view

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Remington-Walker Trigger Explanation
 

spressomon

Expedition Leader
Just found this thread...

As a Remington 700 owner with a non-defective "x mark" trigger, I want to make sure every 700 owner with the original Walker-design trigger assembly is aware this is a real issue. Anybody saying it's bull****, the military isn't having problems, best rifle in the world, never had a problem with mine etc.... you are welcome to your opinion but you are wrong. This is easy to research. Many people injured and killed due to unintended Remington 700 firing without trigger pull, weapon goes off while closing bolt, flicking off safety etc. and absolutely does NOT require botched trigger job or dropping the weapon.

Sifting through the various extreme opinions on this issue polluting the internet, this seems like one of the best summaries:

http://www.drinnonlaw.com/Texas-Defective-Remington700.php

Form your own opinion. I have no skin in the game. But ignorance is just that.

- Isaac


Quite coincidently we were talking about this last night at a hunter's meal we regularly have. One of my good buddies, who has been and still is a big game hunter his entire life (his 91-year old Dad drew a NV bull elk tag this year; we were eating the desert big horn his Dad drew a tag for and shot last year at 90!) with trophies aplenty from near and far...in other words a vastly experienced hunter...with numerous rifles. He's had the same experience with his 700 firing as he closed the bolt WITHOUT FINGER ON TRIGGER; scary. And two other friends of his have had the same experience. As you state: This IS a real world wide spread issue not some anomaly.
 

kjp1969

Explorer
Model 700s are fine rifles - among the most accurate and popular rifles made. The claims made by the lawyers in the suit do not reflect my experience with Remington... they have readily updated their firearms and no company is going to continue a design that creates a liability. That's crazy.

Got any stats on HOW MANY accidental or 'uncaused' discharges there have been?

With 4 million rifles out there, a tiny defect shows up pretty severely.

It would be refreshing if Remington stepped up on this rather than falling back on the bean counters.
 

coreys88burban

Adventurer
i think this is BS, ive been around these guns all my life, as has my dad and uncle and friends. I have a model 700 and a 770. both are great. i think if you dnt take car of your guns then yes things happen and yes all guns have a few that are defective and as the 700 is the #1 poular rifle ever made (besides m1 and all) at least highest used rifle..it comes down to 1,000 for 10,000,000 defective 700's and 1 of the 10,000 winchesters sold. i say the TV show on this, PATETIC! only 1 person was an accedent! that guy who shot through the wall! all others were in the same room with the people they shot. "he gun went off and i was bein' safe" yea right! your son was right in front of you and your LOADED rifle went off and shot him..but yet you wernt pointing it at him. im not saying 700s arent defective, hell i guarentee some are but people need to wake up. also i have had my 700 mis fire as my savage miss fire and i wait a few seconds before unbolting it and theyve never shot when i do that. stupid people, poor care and bad reloads are the problem!
 

007

Explorer
With 4 million rifles out there, a tiny defect shows up pretty severely.

It would be refreshing if Remington stepped up on this rather than falling back on the bean counters.

There is no defect to step up to. It would be like calling every push rod motor defective because the overhead cam engine doesn't bend pushrods.
 

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