Road/touring bike build up.

Capt Sport

Adventurer
Flounder,

I'm with you on this Fixie fad and the destroying of older bike to make some crappy looking "rat bike". I can only hope that the fixie fad fades rather quickly and their will be enough of the classics left to be truly appreciated.
 

IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
If you really want to save some coin, Id suggest making yourself good friends with the guys at the local bike shops. :sombrero:

Most shops have a STASH of old parts. Including old wheels, that "mr fancy-pants" "upgraded" from.

Im running such a set right now. A set of super clean Campy hubs, 6 speed freewheel, with good 700 mavic wheels, ready to ride on for $40

I rode on this set untouched for 400 miles or so. Then threw the rear wheel on the truing stand to tune it up. broke the first spoke I touched, so i relaced it.

Still, Im into the wheelset less than $100. Add another $60 for tires.



Just thoughts to share. I hate seeing people toss out perfectly good parts and waste $$ on these cool old bikes.

Ive got less than $400 into my old Viscount right now. But it is 100% up to speed and needs nothing.

Ive got a small site dedicated to the rehab
http://www.bonnefinstudios.com/kwb/projects/viscount/

Currently, with the new(er) wheels

viscount.jpg



Still has the cheap new shimano rear derail.

Currently looking for a period correct Shimano Sun Tour to match the front. :sombrero:
 

1speed

Explorer
Flounder,

I'm with you on this Fixie fad and the destroying of older bike to make some crappy looking "rat bike". I can only hope that the fixie fad fades rather quickly and their will be enough of the classics left to be truly appreciated.

X3
I started riding fixed before the fad started. Now it seems I'm "hip", I'd rather not be. :sombrero:
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
Flounder,

I'm with you on this Fixie fad and the destroying of older bike to make some crappy looking "rat bike". I can only hope that the fixie fad fades rather quickly and their will be enough of the classics left to be truly appreciated.
Fortunately, industry indicators show the fixie fad is fading.
 
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EuroJoe

Adventurer
Capt Sport

not sure where you are located, but you may be able to find a bicycling co-operative near by, the two in Chicago always have a ton of parts for older bikes, wheels and friendly people to help you build up the bike.
 

Sloan

Explorer
Speaking of old school, look what I found the last time I visited my parents. I got his when the shop we rode for wouldn't let us ride without helmets. You might also get in contact with www.clarksvilleschwinn.com , when I was a kid hanging out there the basement was like a museum of old parts and bikes. The owners name is Bob and he is a great guy.
 

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Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
I had that same Cinelli helmet the first year I raced, but mine was that hideous neon green like Rishi Grewal used. I'll take it a step further - I still have my leather soled Detto Pietro cycling shoes from that same year.
 

Capt Sport

Adventurer
Ok, so I just got back from this bike shop: velocult.com

Which is a cool bike shop here in San Diego, they focus on building up older classic bikes and have some really great customer service. If ya drop by have a beer, as they have a kegerator right in the shop. Cool shop with very nice people working there.

I had my frame cold set to 130 mm, turns out it was originally 126 mm from the factory. So, not a big deal to add 2 mm per side. The frames nice and straight and the fork checked out ok as well so we're good to go on buying parts. So, I'll be shopping for parts and will be updating you guys on my progress as she goes. It may take a while but I'm dead set on getting this thing back on the road.
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
Cool - your bike must not be nearly as old as I thought. If it's got 126mm drops and a der hanger, that's an entirely different ball of wax.
 

scottishpinz

Adventurer
I've just given my 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper a new lease of life as a stripped down urban bike.... completely dismantled the bike down to frame and forks, sanded off what was left of the original grey paint and painted it flat black. Funny thing is back in 1991 when I bought the bike I'd set out to get a Stumpjumper which was black, however the shop had sold out and offered me the Sumpjumper comp for nearly the same price but it was a horrible grey colour. well I lived with that grey for nearly 20 years but wonder now why I didn't repaint it sooner.

I realized I hardley ever used the small and big front cogs so took them off and left single chainring so no need for a front mech!

Years ago I replaced the wheels with Mavic 231 Ceramics on XTR hubs and it just shows how quality lasts cause they still run good and true.

Funny how you can't let an old bike die!
 

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Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
If you really want to save some coin, Id suggest making yourself good friends with the guys at the local bike shops. :sombrero:

Most shops have a STASH of old parts. Including old wheels, that "mr fancy-pants" "upgraded" from.

Im running such a set right now. A set of super clean Campy hubs, 6 speed freewheel, with good 700 mavic wheels, ready to ride on for $40

I rode on this set untouched for 400 miles or so. Then threw the rear wheel on the truing stand to tune it up. broke the first spoke I touched, so i relaced it.

Still, Im into the wheelset less than $100. Add another $60 for tires.



Just thoughts to share. I hate seeing people toss out perfectly good parts and waste $$ on these cool old bikes.

Ive got less than $400 into my old Viscount right now. But it is 100% up to speed and needs nothing.

Ive got a small site dedicated to the rehab
http://www.bonnefinstudios.com/kwb/projects/viscount/

Currently, with the new(er) wheels

viscount.jpg



Still has the cheap new shimano rear derail.

Currently looking for a period correct Shimano Sun Tour to match the front. :sombrero:

HAY you still haven't sent me your personal info for the insurance policy! :ylsmoke:
 

Capt Sport

Adventurer
Hey Scottishpinz,

Nice bike! I almost bought a Stumpjumper back then, got a great deal on a Mongoose and bought that instead. Always liked the rigid Stumpjumpers though. I like rigid mountain bikes, they climb better imo ; )
 
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Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
The Travelers of the 70's were Panasonic. Mid 80's they could be Giant. If it has the investment lugs it is well worth keeping but stamped lugs....ehhh

You need to decide what are wants and what are needs.

The bike would make a good credit card touring bike but not such a good fully loaded unsupported touring bike. It is a sport frame with short chain stays not conducive to large panniers or a lot of weight. It would be best set up in a Randonneur style with a handle bar bag and a seat bag.

A Triple I can see as being a need but as I recall from the 86 Traveler I had it had a 14-30 Suntour Freehub on the back so you are going to need to make sure you have a derailleur that can handle a 32 and 28 or so on the crank. Once Shimano perfected the Cassets things went from 52/42 cranks pushing 14-32 Free hubs on sport bikes to 52/39 (or now 50/34 is really common) with 11/26 or 12/28 Cassettes. If you look at the actual gear range they are pretty close. You start mixing 11/30 with 52/42/28 cranks You need some odd derailleurs. You are going to have to start dropping crank ring size to stay in the limits of most derailleurs.

For a distance bike you are not looking for speed as much as pace. THe 9 and 10 speed cassettes are more about staying in that sweet spot at higher speeds and cadence.
9speed STI is a want. Yes it is nice to have a nice close ratio shifts but a well set up halfstep you still have that but you are going to have it at a moderate sustainable pace.

Don't let the bike shop talk you into thinking you need parts when what you have is fine if you are looking for long solo rides and the occassional Fund raising Century. While what that bike came with is not top of the line it is functional.

On the open market it is going to be a $150 bike stock (thats what I sold mine for). With $500+ worth of upgrades it is going to be a $250 bike. Keep that in sight. The reason is the frame is really nothing special and 2-3 years $100 is what used brifters go for (I have bought 3 sets at that price now). Not saying don't do it just putting it into perspective that you are doing as a want and you will not get the cash back out of that upgrade if (more likely when) you decide next year you want to get a different bike..

My current toy is a 80 Raleigh (I think, might be a honest to god Carlton custom build) 531 frame with Campy drops with a 600Arbesqe RD High flange record hubs and Suntour power shifts on 27 inch white walls. It rides great! Every bit as enjoyable my C-Dale T700's (I have two) that has modern 9speed STI Brifters.

I found it on CL for $50. It is every bit as reliable as my newer bikes with modern drivetrain. Maybe more so as one set of brifters on my 95 is jamming and flushing them out is not fixing it. The 30+ year old Power shifts still working fine as is the Suntour Symetrics on my 84 Lotus and the Suntours on my 84 Fuji TIII. The brifters will shortly be replaced with Bar Cons on that bike. Simple desgne wins in the long run with that fancy STI stuff.

If it was my bike here is how I would build it.

Run the stock wheels till they fail. Then decide if just to throw a sent of CR18 rims on the stock hubs or go to something like 105 hub with CR18 or maybes omehting like the VO 105 wheel sets. http://www.velo-orange.com/rihuandotwhc.html

CR18 are good bang for the buck if you decide to build on your hubs. You can often pick up a set of loose NEW rims on ebay for $40-50 for the pair. Both my T700 now wear them.

Shimano 105 long rear Derailleur and stick with the stock friction shifters till the wheels fail. Then make the decision to go indexed if you upgrade to modern cassette. If you look you can get 9 speed stuff cheap because the "Latest and greatest" are buying 10 speed.


Tires...You really cant beat Pannaracer Passela TG and they are available in 27's. Still plenty of choices in 27 if you look. 700x32 is comparable size to the 27x1-1/4 the likely came with and should clear no problem.



Schwinn catalogs if you are interested.
http://www.trfindley.com/pg_schwinn_cats.htm
 

IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
HAY you still haven't sent me your personal info for the insurance policy! :ylsmoke:

You should see the "NEW" one I just picked up for free.

It will be getting the same treatment, and be build for the wife.

as far as I can tell, and was told my the previous owner, it is a '63 Legnano :wings:

Its going to take a whole lot of work though..... its a bit rough. Like REAL rough :coffee:
 

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