rtt vs slide in camper

[Deleted member 9101]

Didn’t the 2000 F250 have 2,500+ lb payload? What’s your Tundra at?

According to Google:

2000 F250: 2,493 to 3,729 lbs payload

2010 Tundra: 1,350 to 2,090 lbs payload

 

[beef tits]

Didn’t the 2000 F250 have 2,500+ lb payload? What’s your Tundra at?

2,500? Not even close. Maybe in a 2WD F350 RC dually. The duallys had a higher GVWR if I recall... 9,900?

My F250s door tag was 8,800 GVWR and the truck weighed a hair over 7,500 lbs with me in it, bed empty.. .so 1,300 lb payload. That 7.3 engine alone is like 1,000+ lbs. Loaded with a Lance 815 camper (wet), two people and a little bit of gear, I was sitting around 9,800. It was overloaded - and bent the factory bump stops eventually. It would move the camper plus 8,000 lbs worth of trailer no problem. 85+ MPH uphill if I wanted. A tuned up 7.3 does not lack power. It does lack reliability and the Tundra (loaded) beats it, 0-60, by a lot. That 7.3 had gobs of highway power though, faster than my old Stage 2+ WRX... completely unnecessary in a rig that big.

My Tundras GVWR is 7,200 and the truck weighs around 5,200 stock. With 350 lbs of ARB bumper, winch, etc., an 840 lb FWC Grandby, and my 200 lb ass, I can barely tell it’s loaded and I can still carry 500+ more pounds and be ‘legal’.

Tundra wins any day of the week, it drives SO much better, at least for my setups. MPGs? Ford has it beat, but not by much, and definitely not enough to make up for all that diesel maintenance and other headaches.

 

[IdaSHO]

Yep, my pops has a 2002?? crew cab SRW 4x4 7.3
It weighs nearly 8k empty. Its GVWR is somewhere around 9k

My 1996 supercab SRW 4x4 7.3 tips the scales at 7200lbs'ish, with a 8800GVWR

Compare that to my 2011 supercab 4x4 6.2
It weighs less than 7k, and has the 9900lbs GVWR

And the running gear absolutely dwarfs that of the old junk.

 

[phsycle]

2,500? Not even close. Maybe in a 2WD F350 RC dually. The duallys had a higher GVWR if I recall... 9,900?

My F250s door tag was 8,800 GVWR and the truck weighed a hair over 7,500 lbs with me in it, bed empty.. .so 1,300 lb payload. That 7.3 engine alone is like 1,000+ lbs. Loaded with a Lance 815 camper (wet), two people and a little bit of gear, I was sitting around 9,800. It was overloaded - and bent the factory bump stops eventually. It would move the camper plus 8,000 lbs worth of trailer no problem. 85+ MPH uphill if I wanted. A tuned up 7.3 does not lack power. It does lack reliability and the Tundra (loaded) beats it, 0-60, by a lot. That 7.3 had gobs of highway power though, faster than my old Stage 2+ WRX... completely unnecessary in a rig that big.

My Tundras GVWR is 7,200 and the truck weighs around 5,200 stock. With 350 lbs of ARB bumper, winch, etc., an 840 lb FWC Grandby, and my 200 lb ass, I can barely tell it’s loaded and I can still carry 500+ more pounds and be ‘legal’.

Tundra wins any day of the week, it drives SO much better, at least for my setups. MPGs? Ford has it beat, but not by much, and definitely not enough to make up for all that diesel maintenance and other headaches.

5200lbs? Do you have a single cab? Did you weigh it? Never seen a DC or CM with over 1,500lb or payload.

Guess those old 3/4 tons weren’t as HD as I remember.

 

[IdaSHO]

They are tough trucks, but not nearly as built from the factory as the new stuff.

Certainly love my 1996 PSD for what it is, but its a dinosaur compared to the 2011 Superduty, in pretty much every way.

 

[tacollie]

John Burt's truck is very cool because he threw a ton of money at it. A newer 6.2 super F250 is still a better truck and won't require a field to turn around. 7.3s are effing loud. Personally I would take an overload Tundra over a 7.3 truck. I will be replacing the Tundra with a 2017 F250 6.2 once I get through tax season.

 

[jgallo1]

such mixed reviews on these platforms.
I called a local well respected off-road shop and asked my trusted mechanic buddy, both said 7.3 in a heartbeat. They said the tundra will ride nicer, but 7.3 will work all day with very little effort. The tundra will eventually struggle and will be constantly fixing shocks springs, cv boots etc..

I have a couple of buddies with 7.3's all their trucks have 200k plus and they have no complaints. Yes they have had to do a little work, but nothing serious.

My one buddy uses his 7.3 as a hunting rig all over the mountains of MT and WY. It's a 2000 crew cab long bed f350. It has over 300, xxx miles on it. He had to replace his AC, some cables, and glow plugs that's it. He says he would never run a small truck in the Mountains with all the snow and drifts. He cowboys for a living ( so seems par for the coarse).
This is why I started looking at 7.3 initially.

 

[jgallo1]

5200lbs? Do you have a single cab? Did you weigh it? Never seen a DC or CM with over 1,500lb or payload.

Guess those old 3/4 tons weren’t as HD as I remember.

I actually called a local toyota dealer to ask about a tundra. They told me payload on a 2020 is just about 1700

 

[jgallo1]

They are tough trucks, but not nearly as built from the factory as the new stuff.

Certainly love my 1996 PSD for what it is, but its a dinosaur compared to the 2011 Superduty, in pretty much every way.

that is a great looking setup

 

[IdaSHO]

Thanks.

It did great.

But the new truck does it considerably better, in more comfort, and greater safety.

 

[tacollie]

such mixed reviews on these platforms.
I called a local well respected off-road shop and asked my trusted mechanic buddy, both said 7.3 in a heartbeat. They said the tundra will ride nicer, but 7.3 will work all day with very little effort. The tundra will eventually struggle and will be constantly fixing shocks springs, cv boots etc..

I have a couple of buddies with 7.3's all their trucks have 200k plus and they have no complaints. Yes they have had to do a little work, but nothing serious.

My one buddy uses his 7.3 as a hunting rig all over the mountains of MT and WY. It's a 2000 crew cab long bed f350. It has over 300, xxx miles on it. He had to replace his AC, some cables, and glow plugs that's it. He says he would never run a small truck in the Mountains with all the snow and drifts. He cowboys for a living ( so seems par for the coarse).
This is why I started looking at 7.3 initially.

My little brother was a 7.3 guy. He used to go on and on about how great they were. Then he bought a 2015 6.7 f350. He says he'll never go back. The newer trucks do everything better. He has a v10 excursion he is planning on a diesel swap. It's not getting a 7.3.

My neighbor has a 2000 F350 with a 7.3 and 320k. He thinks it's the greatest truck ever. He's never had anything newer. He spends a lot of weekends wrenching on it.

Tundra springs suck. I had to replace them but the truck had 103k miles when I bought it. The last 12k miles it's been a hair over GVWR. It has zero rattles or issues. I am going to replace it with a newer F250 to gain 2000lbs of payload and it'll be safer for my passengers. I also really like the 6.2.

 

[4x4tripping]

Link: inner sleeping Setups

That is another way, if your vehicle size matters.

Did live over an year in my vehicle, during trips like my a transacfrica, europe and south america

 

[beef tits]

5200lbs? Do you have a single cab? Did you weigh it? Never seen a DC or CM with over 1,500lb or payload.

Guess those old 3/4 tons weren’t as HD as I remember.

Single cab, 8' bed... the way a truck should be

I have not actually weighed it yet. With the accessories I have on I would guess closer to 5,600. Still more payload than my F250.

 

[beef tits]

I actually called a local toyota dealer to ask about a tundra. They told me payload on a 2020 is just about 1700

Nice. Too bad they only come in soccer mom cabs now-a-days... I'd buy a new one if they offered a RCLB.

My neighbor has a 2000 F350 with a 7.3 and 320k. He thinks it's the greatest truck ever. He's never had anything newer. He spends a lot of weekends wrenching on it.

Most of those guys do. They'll never admit it but they spend A LOT of time fixing ******** that really shouldn't break in the first place. I did it for 3 years. That truck left me stranded on at least 8 trips, sometimes before I left the driveway.

Tundra springs suck.

Agreed but that's an easy, permanent fix. I went with the OME Dakars. My stockers had 210k on them though with no sag to mention.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

such mixed reviews on these platforms.
I called a local well respected off-road shop and asked my trusted mechanic buddy, both said 7.3 in a heartbeat. They said the tundra will ride nicer, but 7.3 will work all day with very little effort. The tundra will eventually struggle and will be constantly fixing shocks springs, cv boots etc..

I have a couple of buddies with 7.3's all their trucks have 200k plus and they have no complaints. Yes they have had to do a little work, but nothing serious.

My one buddy uses his 7.3 as a hunting rig all over the mountains of MT and WY. It's a 2000 crew cab long bed f350. It has over 300, xxx miles on it. He had to replace his AC, some cables, and glow plugs that's it. He says he would never run a small truck in the Mountains with all the snow and drifts. He cowboys for a living ( so seems par for the coarse).
This is why I started looking at 7.3 initially.

Stock 7.3 is an absolute turd, but it's relatively fuel efficient and reliable. Modified it can be a beast, but it drinks fuel and grenades driveline componants. You have to remember, you'd be buying a truck with almost 20 years of wear and tear, abuse, and problems if you went with a 7.3. If you combine the cost of buying a "clean" 7.3 truck and then the money that you'd spend in parts to fix whats wrong with it.... I'm betting you could just buy a nicer/newer 6.2 gasser that is more reliable and does everything better. There is literailly nothing that a old 7.3 does bettter than a newer 6.2.

Interestingly enough, a 6.2 superduty rides the same and gets about the same fuel economy as a Tundra...and when you pick similarly equipped used trucks, the F250 is cheaper.