Seriously looking at a '95 LC80, quick questions.

Brian894x4

Explorer
Thanks all for the kind words and info. I pick it up tomorrow and sometime thereafter I'll start up a new build up thread.

Here's my plan. Subject to change of course. Let me know what you all think.

1) Of course, remove running boards. (sliders eventually, but that will be down on the list). Likely remove fender flares and either patch holes or put on something thinner variations that I've seen on other rigs. Any suggestions?

2) Stock suspension hieght, however springs changed as needed to compensate for weight. I have no intention to lift this rig at all. 33" will the be largest tire I plan to run and they apparently will fit without lift, so that's what I'm going to do.

3) 33" Goodyear MTRs. If I can fit my truck's brand new 15x8 wheels with 33x12.5-15 MTRs through wheel spacers or grinding, I'll try that. Otherwise, they'll go up for sale and I'll be up a set of 16" steelies and brand new 33" MTRs to fit 'em.

4) ARB winch bullbar. (If anyone knows a good deal on a new or used one, please let me know). Of course front and rear off road lights.

5) Warn 9000-9500lb winch. I know some suggest going larger, but I don't plan to winch often and I want to keep weight as reasonable as possible.

6) dd a dual battery system like my truck has, although simplier for reliability.

7) Rear bumper stock for now, with plans to add something custom later for rear protection. I don't intend to have a spare tire carrier I don't think.

8) I guess there's a mod to tuck up the spare tire. Does anyone know if a 33" spare will fit under an LC like it does under my pick-up?

9)Sliders. Possibly homemade custom to keep cost down.

10) Roofrack. Haven't decided how to pursue this. I already have a roofrack on the truck and I will likely inititally transfer this over, but I like the full size low profile type racks and I may eventually go with one of those. I've also considered that I want to keep the rig low profile, so I might forgo the roofrack.

11) Rooftop tent. I REALLY l like these from what I've seen, although I've never used one. This "may" be a future option, although I don't really want to add the weight and the profile. I also might see how viable it is to sleep inside the cab. We'll see.

12) No snorkle. I don't do serious watercrossings, they're spendy and again, I want to keep the rig semi-low profile. However, I will add diff breathers just to be safe.

13) Rear ARB locker. This rig doesn't have the factory lockers, which is a bummer, but something I can definately live with considering everything else about it. Eventually the rear will be fitted with at least an ARB. I may possibly go all out and fit the front and rear with ARBs and upgrade the gears. That's gonna be a spendy, spendy proposition, but if I'm going to going up one diff anyway......we'll see.

14) I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the interior. Of course, Ham radios, laptop mount and GPS all have to be mounted inside somehow. Extra gauges will likely be kept to a minimum with one showing the aux. battery voltage.

15) One idea I had was to remove one of the split rear seats, since I don't really anticipate carrying more than 2 other people and in that spot, mount my cooler and if there's room a storage box and some other stuff, which would leave a lot of room in the back to carry other gear.

16) I don't really want to do a drawer system, because I'd like to keep the rig versital if I have to move or transport large items. I'll probably just carry most of my gear in removable boxes. But I'm sure this will evolve over time, since I can never keep my hands of building something, which means...I'll probably under up with drawers.

17) I've got a complicated water system in the pick-up, but I'll likely just go back to water containers for simplicity.

18) The theme of this build up is going to be simplicity for reliability and durability and keeping weight down. And also fairly low profile since it will be parked alot out in the woods while I hike down trails and explore on foot. I know with 33s and an ARB bumper, that sort of defeats that purpose, but the less it sticks out the better.

Any other suggestions or thoughts are more than welcome.
 

Life_in_4Lo

Explorer
-You might look at the OME 'low lift' springs for upgraded weight carrying but not lifting the truck.

- I think you should leave the running boards on there for now, considering your setup. I felt that they were actually very useful on the 80. They are also pretty solid for running boards. People say the 80 is low, but it is really quite good in stock form. I like the running boards

-TJM might be a better front bumper option for you. Lighter weight and cheaper, looks really good too.

-Might want to post a WTB front bumper ad on Mud, people are selling old stuff to get the new Slee front bumper.

-33" will fit in spare location. I ran 285/75-16 MTR under there until I got my rear bumper.

-rear seats come out w/ a few bolts. it increases your interior usefulness by a HUGE margin. For some reason, I can't pull them out permanently...I kinda like them in there but I have unbolted them for trips and the extra room is great.

- I like 16" stock oem's or black alloys. Lighter weight, and no modifications necessary. wheeler's offroad has a nice black alloy that is cheap and looks great- kinda like a steelie look.
 

Brian894x4

Explorer
Thanks for the tips. I'll take a look at the TJM. I really do like the look of the ARB bumpers. Especially the Land Cruiser versions. I posted a wanted ad on Mud, but so far, no sellers.

I'm sure the running boards are well made, but I really like the look of a slimmed down 80, minus the running boards and even the fender flares. At least the wide flender flares. We'll see.

285/75R-16 MTR....hmmmmmmm 33" x about 11". I kind of like that tire size. Maybe I should think about just selling my 33x12.5-15s on 15x8 rims and going with another brand new set of tires?

Those are Load Range D. Is that what I need for the Cruiser, or will a softer or heavier Load range be better?
 

Life_in_4Lo

Explorer
IMO, I would just get new tires for the stock alloy 16" wheels. The LC alloys are hard to come by cheap so if you have them, might as well enjoy them! hehe

The D load 285's work great for me. You can run 305's (same diameter, but wider) but maybe an issue w/ your application of 'no-lift'. anyway, I think 285's look great and they do the job.

I like the TJM w/o hoops. It looks really clean and very "stock". I almost got that bumper.
 

Brian894x4

Explorer
Life_in_4Lo said:
IMO, I would just get new tires for the stock alloy 16" wheels. The LC alloys are hard to come by cheap so if you have them, might as well enjoy them! hehe

The D load 285's work great for me. You can run 305's (same diameter, but wider) but maybe an issue w/ your application of 'no-lift'. anyway, I think 285's look great and they do the job.

I like the TJM w/o hoops. It looks really clean and very "stock". I almost got that bumper.

The LC alloys are definately nice looking wheels, but I just love black wheels. Ever since I put them on my truck, I don't know why. I think it's the simple utilitarian look that I like so much.

Something like what Scott recently got for this Taco would be great, but I think those might be a bit spendy.

My favorite over all set ups are the moderately stock utilitarian rigs overseas that use stock suspension, steel rims and then some kind of bull bar.

By the way, does anyone know where people are getting those "thin" fenderflares that they put on to replace the stock ones?
 

Brian894x4

Explorer
Life_in_4Lo said:
IMO, I would just get new tires for the stock alloy 16" wheels. The LC alloys are hard to come by cheap so if you have them, might as well enjoy them! hehe

The D load 285's work great for me. You can run 305's (same diameter, but wider) but maybe an issue w/ your application of 'no-lift'. anyway, I think 285's look great and they do the job.

I like the TJM w/o hoops. It looks really clean and very "stock". I almost got that bumper.

The LC alloys are definately nice looking wheels, but I just love black wheels. Ever since I put them on my truck, I don't know why. I think it's the simple utilitarian look that I like so much.

Something like what Scott recently got for this Taco would be great, but I think those might be a bit spendy.

My favorite over all set ups are the moderately stock utilitarian rigs overseas that use stock suspension, steel rims and then some kind of bull bar.

BTW, does anyone make a thinner 80 series fender flare that can replace the stock one that sticks out so much?
 

Life_in_4Lo

Explorer
you can always paint or powdercoat the stock alloys black. That will still be cheaper and better performing than steel wheels.

the 1990-91 Land Cruiser fender flares are narrower and don't stick out as much.
 

Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
locrwln said:
I don't know of any specific options list other than what I've gathered on the Mud board. The only options were: Lockers, leather seats, running boards, roof rack, third row seats and tow hitch. All of the comfort options, were already installed. All of the 80's that came to the US were considered a luxury vehicle, so all of them were "fully" loaded.

Jack - you're forgetting about the 'Gold Package' for the soccer moms!

I have been used to both part time and full time AWD or 4WD. I like the AWD set up on the 80. The manual CDL switch install is pretty simple and a good idea, IMO.

edit: On the subject of MTRs. This is a very good off-raod tire, I ran them on my FJ60 for quite a while. The 60 is lighter and less sound proof than an 80, but here's what I found with the MTRs on my 60...

1. They are noisy.

2. They are hard to keep balanced (I was running 31 X 10.50 on stock rims)

3. They hold up pretty well on pavement for an all-out OR tire.

4. The have very tough sidewalls - I liked that

5. The are good in the mud, rocks, snow.

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