Smooth Riding Shocks for 2500 Burb?

Ramblejam

Observer
It seems rather peculiar, but the shocks (both front & rear) on a 2500 Suburban are the same as what's fitted to a 3500HD Silverado; configuration (engine, axle size, etc.) makes no difference.

High-speed is very stiff, though well controlled. However, low-speed off road is bone-jarring rough.

Any suggestions? Thanks!
 
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chilliwak

Expedition Leader
I say go with a set of Bilsteins.:drool: Ironically the stiff dampening makes for the best ride. Are you mostly driving loaded or empty as that makes a huge differance...:)
 

upcruiser

Perpetual Transient
I have a 2004 2500 Burb and still have the OEM shocks as well and echo your impressions. I posed the same question on here and the consensus seemed to be the Bilsteins were the best option and improved the ride quality over stock. I haven't pulled the trigger yet but was planning to do so for the spring. I found that airing down greatly improved the ride quality when even just spending a long day on dirt roads, otherwise I had to drive really slow and or just got beat up from the jarring ride over the rough. Compared to my Land Cruisers or other overland rigs in the past, without airing down I had to drive considerably slower over the same routes with the Burb. That's the price for payload and towing capacity though. If you have ever spent time in a 70 series Cruiser you know those big spring packs in the rear Coke at a cost as well. I think for the Burbs having a good set of tires, onboard air, and a set of Bilsteins would go a long way to making dirt time more pleasurable.
 

Woofwagon

Adventurer
I have Monroe Sensatracs on my '89 and it rides pretty well for a truck with straight axles and leaf springs.
 

jscusmcvet

Explorer
I never used to believe the marketing and hype of the premium brand shocks. Then a few years ago got the opportunity to upgrade to blistiens on my Jeep LJ. The difference in ride, on road and at speed off road made me a believer. The only other shocks I have had that made a favorable upgrade impression over the years were BDS. As I look into lift and other supension upgrades for my 91 2500 Suburban, Bilstiens will be my first choice, if I can swing it at the time.
 

*TRD*

Observer
Fox 2.0 with 5/8" shaft is your best bet for a good on-road ride and decent off-road performance.

If you plan to drive on washboard road and do extended trips then I recommend the Fox 2.5 shocks. The increased size offers more damping, and when combined with a flutter stack, can provide a smooth off-road ride and a prevent bottoming out.
 

'05TJLWBRUBY

Adventurer
^^^If you're serious about good shocks- give Ryan a call. You'll toss those bilsteins in the trash when you see what he can do with a set of Fox. Nothing off the shelf will provide the handling and control that a good shock with a good tune can offer.

Best of Luck,

Mike
 

chilliwak

Expedition Leader
I agree with everyone that a Fox shock is better than a Bilstein but in Canada they cost 3x what a Bilstein costs..:Wow1:
 

PGW

Observer
What is your budget? It seems the general consensus in off the shelf shocks are Bilstein<Fox 2.0<King 2.5, and the prices on those ramp up accordingly.
 

*TRD*

Observer
Thanks Mike!

I'd vote Fox 2.5 before King 2.5 based on my experience.

Fox Performance Series have better oil and seals than King 2.5 Performance Race Shocks.

Fox Factory Series shocks come with a better piston, and a stainless steel piston rod. The piston provides better ride quality on washboard road and the stainless steel piston rod is MUCH more corrosion resistant and nearly twice the strength of the King piston rod.

Here is a break down between the Fox 2.5 Performance Series vs Fox 2.5 Factory Series Shocks.
 

Ramblejam

Observer
Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply -- great group of guys you've got here!

If Bilstein made shocks specifically set-up for this application (like most other vehicles out there), then I'd just buy a set and be done with it; they're quality at a fine price. Unfortunately, they, nor any other aftermarket manufacturer make it that simple. Therein lies the problem...

As aforementioned in the original post, the same shocks find themselves under a wide variety of GM trucks that are rather disparate when it comes to weight. Take my Suburban, and put it up against a newer Duramax pickup, the latter is somewhere in the neighborhood of 35%-40% heavier on the front axle. It's going to be exceedingly difficult for a shock that's valved acceptably for the diesel truck to deliver smoothness we seek here.

Right now, I have a set of Monroe Gas Magnums on the truck, and frankly, they're quite poorly designed for the Burb. Front is too stiff, and back is too soft (more on that in a second).

The most interesting thing so far was to take a look at what GM did from the factory...

Rear was a monotube, which I think would address much of the inadequacies I've observed with the Gas Magnum; excessive sway in rear when unloaded (when each rear tire hits an obstacle independently), and excessive lateral movement/sag in the rear when towing heavy. Whether Bilstein or some other quality monotube, I think it'd be the way to go.

When you play around with all the varying configurations/years for the front though, you'll see that unlike the aftermarket (one part for everything), different shocks were spec'd for varying configurations/years. They're all the same design (basic twin-tube), but valved differently.
 

Ramblejam

Observer
UPDATE -

After much research, made the decision awhile back to go with Bilstein 5100.

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Front droop travel is no longer shock limited (now going all the way to UCA stops), and the rear-end isn't tossing back-and-forth like a boat in rough seas.

They're a vast improvement; still rides like a 3/4-ton, but comparatively speaking, the truck corners on rails and large impact absorption is superb.
 

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