Snorkel Wars

[asteffes]

Haven't really needed one yet, don't know if anyone makes one for a Tundra, probably couldn't talk my wife into it if there was one! But, man, would it LOOK cool!

Right but all of this

2003 Tundra; 265/75/16 BFG ATKO's; 16x8 Wheelers steel wheels; Truxedo cover; Diff breather extension; Magellan GPS; on board air; bed light and power outlet; CB; 1.5" Daystar lift front; Deaver 3 leaf AAL rear

was a piece of cake, right?

 

[Nullifier]

This must be a geography thing. Come wheeling with me in Florida july through november and you will be ordering one right away. Down here our trails get flooded with water and traversing tire to headlight deep water is a regular thing here. I regularly see water above my wipers in the rainy season on trials.


I have taken the time to dissassemble the whole air intake system and seal it, as well as seal the electrical compotnents and breather extensions on my drivetrain.

Now we do accasionally have guys that come out with us that do not have prepared vehicles but they are usualy getting oulled out for new trannies, motors or some kind of electrical demon.

I am an advocet of snorkels in my area if you actaully do any wheeling. this pc is an in cab view of an xj on 35's on one of our regular trail rides.

Personally I spent 20 minutes this hole that night with water head light deep. Thanks to my snorkel and sealing work I had no problems. Except the water in the cab was up tp the ottom of the dash. On my upcoming mod list is a pr of bilge pumps 1 under each seat to keep the water levels in the cab to a minimum.

typical trails in rainy season

these are shallow areas where folks could stand on there tires and get picks however the holes encoutered get real deep and it is just part of florida "mall crawling".

 

[upcruiser]

I can respect your opinion, but I can testify to the amount of trails here in Utah that have deep water (non flash flood) crossings in the spring run off. Am I inviting trouble? Sure, but just as I did with suspension, gears, lockers, winch, welder, etc... Its all about knowing your personal abilities and using them wisely. That an not being a sissy... :ylsmoke:

I agree with that last sentiment entirely. For me, the fact that I live in one of the wettest places (highest concentration of freshwater in the world) makes for numerous trails that have deep water crossings that aren't spring run off dependant. I got by fine for the most part without a snorkel in my previous Land Cruiser, Jeep, and Troopers but had a couple of close calls that made me feel more comfortable driving my pristine (then) 80 through some of those spots. Things rarely go perfectly, and despite my best intentions I could easily see getting stuck in water that may risk entering the intake. Due to the climate that I live in, wading out into every crossing isn't an option due to cold water and air for that matter. $300 for the chance of preventing catastrophic engine failure makes good sense to me. Do most people use them for bling? Of course, but assuming that everyone is in that boat is ignorant.

As Scott mentioned regarding dust, the higher the intake, the smaller the dust particulates that will be ingested into the airbox. On a dusty trail or road, even with the intake in the fender, it draws quite a bit of dust. These are the observations that I've made with my truck at least.

Funny though, this topic seems so heated. Alot of haters out there.:shakin: I admit though, the day I start seeing them on Escalades with dubs, I'll be changing my mind.:sombrero:

 

[upcruiser]

This must be a geography thing. Come wheeling with me in Florida july through november and you will be ordering one right away. Down here our trails get flooded with water and traversing tire to headlight deep water is a regular thing here. I regularly see water above my wipers in the rainy season on trials.


I have taken the time to dissassemble the whole air intake system and seal it, as well as seal the electrical compotnents and breather extensions on my drivetrain.

Now we do accasionally have guys that come out with us that do not have prepared vehicles but they are usualy getting oulled out for new trannies, motors or some kind of electrical demon.

I am an advocet of snorkels in my area if you actaully do any wheeling. this pc is an in cab view of an xj on 35's on one of our regular trail rides.

Personally I spent 20 minutes this hole that night with water head light deep. Thanks to my snorkel and sealing work I had no problems. Except the water in the cab was up tp the ottom of the dash. On my upcoming mod list is a pr of bilge pumps 1 under each seat to keep the water levels in the cab to a minimum.

typical trails in rainy season

these are shallow areas where folks could stand on there tires and get picks however the holes encoutered get real deep and it is just part of florida "mall crawling".

Geez, why don't you guys just get into boating instead?:088: Looks like some good paddling trails. haha

 

[goodtimes]

Geez, why don't you guys just get into boating instead?:088: Looks like some good paddling trails. haha

:xxrotflma

 

[articulate]

I dunno, I think you did pretty good! 5 pages, 48 posts, and 645 views in only one day, 6 hours. That may be a new ExPo record

I didn't know this thing would get so much attention. Holy keee-RAP!

It also may be just the way some people type, but I definately didn't expect such harsh-sounding opinions from the anti-snorklites. I was hoping for some more humor.

And one more thing: You'd be hard pressed to convince me that the Baja Taco Machine is a "mere" mall cruiser just because it's snorklified. :ylsmoke:


:rockon:

 

[bigreen505]

This must be a geography thing. Come wheeling with me ...

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On my upcoming mod list is a pr of bilge pumps 1 under each seat to keep the water levels in the cab to a minimum.

Mark, there is your next thread: Can you really consider your vehicle to be anything but a mall crawler if you don't have bilge pumps?

:xxrotflma

Nulifier, I have sailed out of marinas with that much water in them! Actually for the 1998 North American and World Championships of the class I primarily sail, the boats had to sail through a harbor not much deeper than that. Pretty cool watching 100 boats with their rudders off and center boards most of the way up planing in under spinnaker and jibing between the shallow areas. In two weeks of sailing I think there were only a couple broken masts.

 

[Blair G]

I didn't know this thing would get so much attention. Holy keee-RAP!

It also may be just the way some people type, but I definately didn't expect such harsh-sounding opinions from the anti-snorklites. I was hoping for some more humor.

And one more thing: You'd be hard pressed to convince me that the Baja Taco Machine is a "mere" mall cruiser just because it's snorklified. :ylsmoke:


:rockon:

This has been harsh? You need to head over to the Advrider.com site and see harsh. You guys are mild mannered.
Blair

 

[goodtimes]

I don't see too many harsh responses here Mark. I think it is more the fact that you don't get to read body language or hear voice inflection, leaving the reader to determine the intent of the author.

Even Advrider isn't too bad. Run over to Pirate and see what they have to say about snorkles. Now THAT would be harsh (while your at it, tell them that lockers are for wimps).

:lurk:

 

[goodtimes]

And one more thing: You'd be hard pressed to convince me that the Baja Taco Machine is a "mere" mall cruiser just because it's snorklified.

d00d! The taco machine is definately a mall cruiser! Why do you think he spend 4 months (+/-) in Baja back in '00? He got lost and simply refused to stop and ask for directions!

:sombrero:

 

[Nullifier]

Mark, there is your next thread: Can you really consider your vehicle to be anything but a mall crawler if you don't have bilge pumps?

:xxrotflma

Nulifier, I have sailed out of marinas with that much water in them! Actually for the 1998 North American and World Championships of the class I primarily sail, the boats had to sail through a harbor not much deeper than that. Pretty cool watching 100 boats with their rudders off and center boards most of the way up planing in under spinnaker and jibing between the shallow areas. In two weeks of sailing I think there were only a couple broken masts.

Nice. The wife and I have a small sail boat with leeboards for shallow water running. In a good wind I can heel it over and skip across 18" of water under sial with board partially down. When the boards are fully up it drafts 6" THere is nothing more funny then seeing guys on flats boats doing everything they can to get your attention trying to tell you to veer off so you do not run aground, and then cruise right on by LOL!

 

[BajaTaco]

LOL - if this is the worst "bashing" thread we get around here, I think we're doing pretty well. As many of you know (but many lurkers may not), Goodtimes and I are good friends (for what, 5 years now?) and I actually did get a good laugh at that first post of his. Although I might slightly disagree, he has some very good points. And just the way he puts it cracks me up. What I like best though, is that he says what's on his mind and is honest about it. (and like me, if what's on his mind is not in the best interest of the discussion, he'll keep it to himself.... most of the time. LOL)

Now as for Mark F'in Stephens... that guy is a hellraiser.

 

[BMAN]

LOL - if this is the worst "bashing" thread we get around here, I think we're doing pretty well. As many of you know (but many lurkers may not), Goodtimes and I are good friends (for what, 5 years now?) and I actually did get a good laugh at that first post of his. Although I might slightly disagree, he has some very good points. And just the way he puts it cracks me up. What I like best though, is that he says what's on his mind and is honest about it. (and like me, if what's on his mind is not in the best interest of the discussion, he'll keep it to himself.... most of the time. LOL)

Now as for Mark F'in Stephens... that guy is a hellraiser.

Well put, in more ways than one. One of the nice things about actually knowing and wheeling with some of these guys for years, is being able to put that inflection of sarcasm into their posts for them. I hear Brian's voice when I read his posts. The same with Chris and Scotty and others here who I've spent plenty of trail time with. It's those that I don't know on a personal basis that I sometimes force myself to re-read their posts with a little sarcasm in them to make sure that I didn't miss something.

This thread is far from scathing, even if you put a mean spirited affect on each post. Like others have said... you want harsh, read pirate more often.

 

[OverlandZJ]

I think this thread has been very informative, and led to a factual conversation enabling one to share the opinions of some of the most traveled offroaders on the net. Anyone considering a snorkel purchase should read this thread...twice.

Not only have i not read any harsh responses in this thread, i'v yet to read any hostility in ANY thread i'v read on this forum. :clapsmile

Now ball breakin....thats a different story. :shakin:

 

[ccrider]

lurking

This site is excellent, information reliable and people are real ! There certainly is not the juvenile trash talk you get from a site such as TTORA.
I am consistenly impressed with the courtesy and enthusiasm shown by all !
cheers to all
Chris