Snow Photos - LR3

[05LR3AZ]

Lr3

Me too! Everyone says it's like riding a couch offroad!! :smiley_drive:

White LR3 that gets wheeled in Arizona...nice choice! *I have one too* :wavey:

Oh, and I have the Nitto's if we need to do a snow run for tire comparison...

 

[lake_bueller]

I have popped alot of beads in cold weather in the snow

god I love snow wheeling!!

It's best when it happens at night on an off-camber up-hill with 3' of snow and near zero temps:REOutIceFishing:

Looking forward to getting out in the snow with you guys in a few weeks!!

 

[Roverhound]

Shouldn't we have some guys from the Toyota forum over here now telling us how great Toyotas do in the snow?

 

[Alaska Mike]

As has been mentioned, all snow is not alike.

We have a lot of guys up here that run winter rides with Boggers and other aggressive tires, for the paddle effect. Low air pressure, low wheelspin, and consistent momentum keeps them on top for the most of the time. Many of them sipe their tires for ice traction, as the compounds on those tires aren't really all that sticky. My old SSRs (man, I hated that tire) were actually pretty ineffective in the snow up here, despite their soft compound and pretty extensive siping.

The more places around the country I wheel, the more I find that there are few universal "truths". Local conditions and terrain dictate effective tactics and technique. Georgia mud is completely different from Alaska mud. Virginia rock is different from California rock. You do what works.

 

[Alaska Mike]

Shouldn't we have some guys from the Toyota forum over here now telling us how great Toyotas do in the snow?

Actually, I was going to say that black oval Rovers are much better than green oval Rovers in the snow.:elkgrin:

 

[WoldD90]

Georgia mud is completely different from Alaska mud. Virginia rock is different from California rock. You do what works.

That's because our mud is stained with the blood of the Confederacy.

 

[benlittle]

Nice LR3... We have one just like it

 

[kcowyo]

That's because our mud is stained with the blood of the Confederacy.

That's the funniest comment that I've seen in the LR section in a quite a while... :beer:


On topic: What makes snow such a challenge is how varied the conditions can be in just one mile of trail. You can go from slick & icey, to steep & drifted, to wet sloppy slush, to powdery sugar that gives no traction, in a short distance. My experience around here and in CO snow has been AT's perform better in snow than MT's, with the wide MT voids clogged with snow making the tire a snow-packed, slick donut. The narrower voids on an AT tread don't pack up as easily and tend to churn through and float over the slush a little easier. At least in a foot or less of depth. YMMV... doesn't matter what make you're driving.


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[muskyman]

Shouldn't we have some guys from the Toyota forum over here now telling us how great Toyotas do in the snow?

that would work then I could post video of me pulling out cruisers in the snow

 

[SeaRubi]

Mike - that's funny about the SSR's vs. Boggers! And Musky - I was noticing in your photo that you posted up that your rig is wearing a nice set of BFG Muds - :coffeedrink: I ran a detroit rear and tt front and I could never push my RRC that far in the snow with them - looks like you're definitely having much better luck.

 

[Mike_rupp]

Ike, like everyone has mentioned, the snow makes a big difference. Having wheeled in Western WA in the snow and up in Northern Wisconsin (a long time ago), the snow couldn't be anymore different. The stuff in WI is usually really light and fluffy since the humidity is low and the temps are low. On the other hand, the snow in W. WA is like mud.

About all I was able to do here in WA was break a few motor mounts trying to chug through the stuff.

 

[muskyman]

I agree about the snow all being different as just between northern and southern wisconsin the snow is most often different. The big storms in the north are big long blowing storms that come over the great plains and dump lots of powder that then compresses and freezes in layers. while the big storms in the south are either noreasters that come over the lake and dump wet lake effect snow or up from the gulf and dump lots of really packy hard snow ball packing type snow.

either way they do require a bit different strategy but in the end once you are deeper then a foot I have never seen a AT hang with a MT in any snow...and I love snow and have been out playing in it every chance I get for a long time.

the key in deep snow is all about getting the flat area under your tires as long as possible and thats from airing down...way down. once aired down its all about pumping the snow and that is where the aggresive treads win.

Its kinda funny that Mike didnt like his SSR's? I ran them for about 4 years and aired down to like 8psi they were like snowmobiles. Here is a old snow video with the SSR's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGmQFOafnx8&feature=PlayList&p=6A0DC2A17ABE58C9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=56

 

[Alaska Mike]

In regards to the SSRs, I guess hate is a strong word. In the mud, the lugs would deflect and provide only slightly better traction than an AT. At first they were relatively quiet, but once the soft compound started to get cut, they howled like Boggers. More like I should have bought bias ply or regular radial Swampers, for less money, and had a vastly better performing tire in the conditions up here. For the winter on the street, I ran a set of BFG A/Ts to save the good tires for the summer and the trail.

 

[SeaRubi]

On the other hand, the snow in W. WA is like mud.

About all I was able to do here in WA was break a few motor mounts trying to chug through the stuff.

That's because there's generally mud below the snow :-/ Owwie on the mounts. Have you heard about using the Jag V12 mounts? They're bigger and a lil' stouter than rover ... I forget the year - it's on pirate somewhere.

re: SSR's - I have heard others complain too about the compound wearing down and being as bad as normal swampers. Sucks, given the price of the durn things. Oh, and Mike? I can tell you what happens with 34x10.50" TSL's and open diffs in wet heavy snow ... badness!! I won't post the pics to protect the demonstrator :elkgrin:

How many folks run their chains on the front axle vs. the rear? I used to be a rear axle guy but changed over, and it does seem to help by pulling over the snow instead of pushing through it. Again, caveat'ing that with a big ol' YMMV.


cheers
-ike

 

[Roverhound]

That's because our mud is stained with the blood of the Confederacy.

Try a little seltzer water, that stuff works great for stains! Have you pre-treated?