Source for ball-bearing drawer-runners?

DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
Desertdude said:
btw - what are your thoughts on dust ?

It makes me sneeze.

No, just kidding, sorry.

I'm concerned about dust clogging up the slides, for sure. Before we invest in such a system, we're going to have to really re-double our efforts to dustproof the back.

That means getting rid of the current topper and getting a better one. We have the A.R.E. Z-series topper with the big flat glass lift-up door and it leaks dust like crazy - always has. At the Trophy event I noticed those who have the A.R.E. CX series (Chuck/ursidae69 and Chris/Bajataco) had almost no dust. The lift-up door seals really well (it has a lip system) and I also like the side-lifting window option.

So our A.R.E. may be for sale soon!
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
I really like the concept.

Do you have any pictures of the Chuck box? I am wanting to do something similar.

I am doing something similar but on a base with a drawer that holds recovery gear and tools. Some of the space can hold food prep items. The drawer only pulls out the length of the gate. It is also sleeping platform in a 4Runner so I don't have the bed length you have so it won't clear the tail gate.

Because this will also serve as a sleep platform whatever I come up with I want to pull out and go to the side so I can climb in and sleep. I also want whatever slide out that is on the top to not add any more hight. The 8.5 inches of the base unit already makes it difficult to sit up.

I am thinking a locking foot in the front that can be removed easily when the deck needs to be a sleeping platform. Put a quick release latch on the back to secure it to the truck. Put skate board wheels on the end with the foot. Then I can lift the rear get the front on the wheels and disengage the foot at the front and roll it out the back. Maybe pull out and hang on the tire/gas can rack that will end up on the back of the truck. Then easily leave in the garage because this is also a DD.

I am going to get a chunk of Corian to permanently attach to the gate as a prep table. When open the gate is like your truck so I could easily tip it up and rinse off any mess.

Look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Attached is a picture of my Drawer base I am building.
 

DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
Wow - I really like your drawer/platform setup. It might be worth our re-thinking ours.

I'll see if I can photograph the chuck box soon.

Meanwhile here are some links for others' plans for chuck boxes or "patrol boxes" - one from the Boy Scouts of America.

http://www.troop168.net/forms/patrolboxa.htm

http://www.blueskykitchen.com/

The latter is very neat - really well-thought-out.

This box:

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which has a nice stove storage drawer:

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Becomes this workstation:

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Roseann
 
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DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
The thing I like about our chuckbox - even over the cool Blue Sky ones above - is that you can drop the front of it and have instant access to a work surface, drawers with utensils, shelves for plates - so you can make lunch while travelling and not have to unpack everything. Photos soon!
 

DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
Here is our chuckbox, on the tailgate of a friend's Toyota:

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chuckbox1.jpg


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Shelves are lined with cork, and the plates and big cooking utensils are secured on the far left with bungee cord.

I just realized that it's 20 years old this year!
 
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Redback

Adventurer
DesertRose said:
After this weekend's Trophy and Forum, I discovered the joys of camping out of the back of a Taco again (180K miles and this was our first time without our old FourWheel Popup!). We're certainly lacking some fine tuning!

So I'm plotting a custom rollout system for the back - I looked at the available bed trays and they're hugely expensive ($700 is the cheapest - with a simple plywood top).

All I need are the high quality runners and Jonathan can build the custom slideouts (I want 2, full bed length, rather than one giant one).

All I see are sources for 36" drawer sliders - nothing longer.

Any ideas?

This mob have 1500mm drawer slides available
Hafele
http://www.hafele.com.au/isapi/online/tchff/tchff.asp
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LENGTHS FROM
508 mm...227 kg 20 INCHES

TO

1524 mm...155 kg 59 INCHES
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
DesertRose said:
Here is our chuckbox, on the tailgate of a friend's Toyota:

chuckbox4.jpg


chuckbox1.jpg


chuckbox2.jpg


chuckbox3.jpg


Shelves are lined with cork, and the plates and big cooking utensils are secured on the far left with bungee cord.

I just realized that it's 20 years old this year!


Thats a nice one!

I like the front opening much better as well for the same reasons. If I was setting camp for multiple days the expanding style makes sense. I think its a lot of extra weight that a more simple design like yours will be more to my liking. I really like the utensil drawer.

It looks like the shelves and the drawer is all in dado's so it can be reconfigured?

I had hoped to make mine only 10-12 inches tall since it is already sitting on a 8.5 inch platform. That would alow some visibility over it. After looking at a few of these it seems most are 15-18 and that really seems to be better working size. I need to find a cardboard box and see how that size will work for me. I do have about 36 inches of depth I can work with but that will make it a little more difficult to move alone.

I have a bunch of scrap aluminum 1/8 inch thick and some buck rivets. And I have decided on how to make a home made brake. I think I will see about making some of the drawers out of the aluminum to save weight and space.

Thanks for the pictures and links, gives me some ideas for mine.
 

BajaTaco

Swashbuckler
Roseann, I got to see your chuckbox in action at the Trophy and I really like it. (Thanks for the martini!)

Regarding the dust, be sure to seal up the factory "holes" that exist on the underside of the bed rails on your Tacoma. Where the inner and outer skins of the bedsides are pressed together there are large oval perforations that will let dust in. I used some foam weatherstripping to cover the holes and clear RTV silicone to make sure it stayed put.
 

DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
Grim Reaper said:
Thats a nice one!

Thanks - it's Jonathan's work - he's wonderfully talented in woodworking.

Grim Reaper said:
It looks like the shelves and the drawer is all in dado's so it can be reconfigured?

Correct - makes it nice and customizable.

Grim Reaper said:
I do have about 36 inches of depth I can work with but that will make it a little more difficult to move alone.

An important consideration - I'm just able to move ours alone but it's pretty awkward and one misstep and you can just hear your back muscles rip.

Good luck with building - I'm an organization junkie and this is one of my favorite pieces of camping gear, hands-down. (BTW, at the time Jonathan made this, I was doing lots of travel in Mexico on my own, scuba diving - and he added a lovely little leaping-dolphin motif at the back of the cutlery drawer, just for me ;-)
 

DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
BajaTaco said:
Roseann, I got to see your chuckbox in action at the Trophy and I really like it. (Thanks for the martini!)

Regarding the dust, be sure to seal up the factory "holes" that exist on the underside of the bed rails on your Tacoma. Where the inner and outer skins of the bedsides are pressed together there are large oval perforations that will let dust in. I used some foam weatherstripping to cover the holes and clear RTV silicone to make sure it stayed put.

Thanks for the tip, Chris! Next time, the martini will be properly cold!
 

kcowyo

ExPo Original
Great Chuckbox! Jonathan does nice work, I see why you keep him around. :sombrero:

If you really are going to look for a new topper, I would suggest one with "windoors" that flip up on both sides. With that feature on the topper, you won't need slides or drawers or drawers with lids that slide out. Can I play devil's advocate a little?

My biggest complaint about drawers and slideouts is the loss of the tailgate as a fulltime camp table. Anything on the tailgate must be moved when a drawer or slide out is opened. Kind of a pain when you already have dinner cooking on the tailgate. This also a minor annoyance with gear stashed in storage boxes under a sleeping deck. In addition, waking up in the middle of the night and needing something means crawling out of the truck, dropping the tailgate, pulling out drawers or boxes, digging through the gear, etc. It's even more fun in the rain.

I like having the tailgate free for a cookspace, mini-bar, BSing zone, etc. I attempted a slightly different solution prior to last years ExPo Rally, when I was sleeping in the back. I didn't get it finished properly in time, but it worked well enough to give full access to all of my gear without having to reshuffle everything or exposing my stuff to inclement weather or losing my tailgate as a fulltime table/seat.

Instead of drawers or slide outs, I built an L shaped box with hinged lids for access. With the toppers windoors, I was able to reach in the bed, open a lid and there was my trowel. If I woke up to rain, I simply lifted the lid and there was my stove and coffee. When opened to 90 degrees, the underside of the lid acted as a small prep table so if I had to, I could sit back there and make a sandwich or brew some coffee in nasty weather.

The L shaped box allowed for an open corner in the bed for oddball shaped gear, like my water container and chuckbox that wouldn't fit underneath the box. Whether sleeping in the back or in a tent, this just seemed easier because everything stayed in one place. I just had to remember where I put certain things, lift a lid and there it was. As a bonus, I was able to leave my Thermarest and bedroll layed out the whole trip.

Maybe bad weather camping isn't a primary concern in the beautiful southwest, but that system allowed me to be truly "self contained," and eliminated the constant reshuffling of gear. The windoors are key though, for accessing ones gear while standing outside the truck. But it made for a simple solution and even Mr. BajaTaco got a kick out of how easily I was able to set up camp and get to Happy Hour.

Regardless, I look forward to seeing what you two come up with as I'm sure you've spent a lot of time (in airports) giving this some serious consideration. Attached are a few pics of that box (and an icey interior I awoke to in Escalante) that I never did finish, but it gives a visual to this long diatribe.

:beer:
 

DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
Hi KC - thanks for the information. I like that clear-topped storage box. Where did you get it?

Your setup works well for someone who sleeps in the truck and has the side windows for sure. We use a tent (planning to get one of the OzTent RV3s) and as of this date I'm not sure I can swing a new side-open-windows ARE shell, finances-wise. Plus, with the slight lift, and any future lifts, for someone not taller than 5'7", it's still a reach to get to stuff on the floor or even raised a little.

The way I am thinking the platforms work is that one of them becomes the tailgate table - an even better one because it's out of the way and you can still get into the back of the truck without having a stove or fridge in the way.

But of course the perfect solution is a Four Wheel Popup - which we'll eventually get again (this time we're looking for a shell so we can build our own interior).
 

climber-420

Adventurer
Great Chuckbox! Jonathan does nice work, I see why you keep him around. :sombrero:

If you really are going to look for a new topper, I would suggest one with "windoors" that flip up on both sides. With that feature on the topper, you won't need slides or drawers or drawers with lids that slide out. Can I play devil's advocate a little?

My biggest complaint about drawers and slideouts is the loss of the tailgate as a fulltime camp table. Anything on the tailgate must be moved when a drawer or slide out is opened. Kind of a pain when you already have dinner cooking on the tailgate. This also a minor annoyance with gear stashed in storage boxes under a sleeping deck. In addition, waking up in the middle of the night and needing something means crawling out of the truck, dropping the tailgate, pulling out drawers or boxes, digging through the gear, etc. It's even more fun in the rain.

I like having the tailgate free for a cookspace, mini-bar, BSing zone, etc. I attempted a slightly different solution prior to last years ExPo Rally, when I was sleeping in the back. I didn't get it finished properly in time, but it worked well enough to give full access to all of my gear without having to reshuffle everything or exposing my stuff to inclement weather or losing my tailgate as a fulltime table/seat.

Instead of drawers or slide outs, I built an L shaped box with hinged lids for access. With the toppers windoors, I was able to reach in the bed, open a lid and there was my trowel. If I woke up to rain, I simply lifted the lid and there was my stove and coffee. When opened to 90 degrees, the underside of the lid acted as a small prep table so if I had to, I could sit back there and make a sandwich or brew some coffee in nasty weather.

The L shaped box allowed for an open corner in the bed for oddball shaped gear, like my water container and chuckbox that wouldn't fit underneath the box. Whether sleeping in the back or in a tent, this just seemed easier because everything stayed in one place. I just had to remember where I put certain things, lift a lid and there it was. As a bonus, I was able to leave my Thermarest and bedroll layed out the whole trip.

Maybe bad weather camping isn't a primary concern in the beautiful southwest, but that system allowed me to be truly "self contained," and eliminated the constant reshuffling of gear. The windoors are key though, for accessing ones gear while standing outside the truck. But it made for a simple solution and even Mr. BajaTaco got a kick out of how easily I was able to set up camp and get to Happy Hour.

Regardless, I look forward to seeing what you two come up with as I'm sure you've spent a lot of time (in airports) giving this some serious consideration. Attached are a few pics of that box (and an icey interior I awoke to in Escalante) that I never did finish, but it gives a visual to this long diatribe.

:beer:

Hi, I came across your message after looking up bed platforms. I am planning a 4 month rock climbing road trip around the country, and was wondering exactly how you made your platform. I have studied Bajataco's site quite a bit. Is your platform similiar to his? The reason I ask is because you talked about an L shaped box on yours, and I am trying to imagine what it looks like. I have a 2003 Tacoma, with Leer camper top on back, and a rocket box on top. If you don't mind sending me some pic's, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. And if you know of anyone else's buildup I should look at, website's, anything... Please let me know.
 

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