ok it is 4 pages of post later and I figure I better jump back into the thread I started....
First I am really gratefull for all the dialog...even if it did get heated there for a bit at least it was for good reason....
Second, anyone who has ever run a trail with me and had to listen to my freq complaints about trash or stopping for trash comments over the radio knows how I feel...yeah my trail runs are slower since I stop so often to pick up stuff but at least things are better than before I got there...
Third, I have ingrained "slow as possible & fast as necessary" into my mind and got a chance to practice it the last couple of days with a run from phx to crown king and another from florance junction to superior....lots of mud puddles and lots of chance to try my new style.
However there was 1 place which is under a railroad bridge in a wide gravel wash that is man made and no matter how fast you went the water stayed in the wash area....that we hit hard and fast for fun since it was man made, all the water stayed in the pool and the gravel meant no ruts....so the fun was guilt free and great.
That splashing made it much easier to be respectful on the rest of the trail and not splash mud around...also where the trail was wide enough I followed just off to 1 side of the ruts the rig in front of me made so as not to make his deeper...seemed like a good idea.
So thanks again to everyone who chimed in...slow as possible, fast as needed worked great...usually I was able to go through slow enough not to even splash and the couple of times I did need more speed it was "just enough"...worked great.
Oh and lastly...the battleax trail from outside superior to the gila river (almost coke ovens) starts easy but is getting really really washed out towards to gila river and may soon be impassible, do get out there soon...plus it is green and nice looking right now.
