Springs for Tie-Downs needed.....

Rbertalotto

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I want to make a set of four tie-downs for my Palomino 1200 TC.

I'm looking for four heavyduty compression type springs. Where can I source these?

I want to make something like this, but much more heavy duty. Other than buying Torklift devices, is there another option?

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Rbertalotto

Explorer
Thank you very much! Once I realized they are called "drawbar" springs, there are dozens of sources.

But at $25 each for a 300 pound spring, I might as well buy the Happijack or Torklift products for a few $$ more.

With a 1200 pound camper and not doing any "rock crawling" , I'm thinking my "shock Absorber" version might be plenty good enough to simply keep the shock off the tie down points.

With my last camper, back in the 80s, I simply tied it down with turnbuckles and chain. And I did some serious off roading with that camper..........maybe that is why it fell apart after a few years....:Wow1:
 

4xdog

Explorer
How do you think something like this would work?

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"Hard rubber" is a specific term that probably makes no sense for this project -- think old-fashioned bowling ball "hard". Ebonite was a tradename for hard rubber in the past -- probably a lot of online references available. Machinable, threadable, chemically-resistant, so it was an interesting and versatile material especially in the days before synthetic polymer chemistry took off mid-20th century. But not at all flexible. Hard rubber is quite brittle.

You may be thinking "high Durometer", meaning resistant to compression but still elastomeric. A rubber or a polyurethane might work here, but my concern would be the range of movement from fully entended to fully compressed would be quite small -- a fraction of what you'll get with a coil spring. As long as you're looking for a little shock absorption it might work. I'd still go with metal.

Don
 

4xdog

Explorer
Many of the truck dock bumpers (from my observation) are made from sections of recycled tire casings. The nylon/rayon cord is usually visible in the edge-on view. They're incredibly durable, provide some cushioning when the trailer is backed in, but they're not really compressible in the normal sense. I've seen other types made from relatively stiff rubber that have a cross section sort of like a "D", where the geometry of the shape allows it to compress, not the inherent compression of the material. Neither one of those seems ideal to your tie down application. What's the background for your bias against a steel spring?

Maybe you could look to the bicycle world? There are plenty of suspension forks that are based on compression springs made from elastomeric polymers. The "springs" are made in the form of little pucks with a hole in the center for the shaft. They're available in various Durometer grades and can be stacked. The whole idea of those little disks is to provide controlled energy absorption in compression, especially at relatively high rates. They may need to be constrained in a cylinder to work well (otherwise they might be so soft they squish out sideways too much -- dunno the details here, but probably easy enough to check).
 

Rbertalotto

Explorer
What's the background for your bias against a steel spring?

None what so ever.

But I'm a big fan of "Torsion Trailer Axles" that use rubber balls for the suspension. I've build lots of custom trailers for the Off-Road, Motorcycle and livestock markets. The rubber has a natural progressive absorption. When building horse trailers, the rubber mounted springs are always requested to relieve the stress on the horses legs. My feeling was this same attribute would follow for this application.

In fact, if I could find some type of hard rubber ball to insert into my square tubing, that would seem to be the best of all solutions. The ball will deform and fill the voids in the corners, adding even more progressive rate........exactly like the torsion axle does.

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