Tarp/shelter ideas needed…pictures are nice also

D-Morg

New member
I would like to find a new setup for a tarp shelter for base camp use. As of now I have a 20’x40’ :Wow1: that I also use around the house,(at least I think those are the dimensions) and the thing is huge! I just set it up with a ridgeline and guy lines. Nothing special.

I would like to get something stronger, smaller, lighter weight, and more suited for its use. There would be about 6 people under it and a small table that would need to be kept out of the elements (including snow). I would like to steer away from an Easy-Up style shelter, but I would like it to be as durable.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated,
Drew
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
The Moss "wing" series was the gold standard for tarps for many years. I still use my Moss Heptawing 13 years after buying it.

The Moss empire is no more, but their designs live on...sorta. MSR now produces the Outfitter Wing and the Vista Winch. Both are versions of the Heptawing. As tarps go, they will endure a nasty patch of weather. You can get them pitched with enough tension to bounce rain drops back to the heavens. They do require a good sized footprint, but they are solid. The Outfitter Wing has a covered area of 200 square feet. Retail is $300 complete with two poles, stakes, etc.
 

squatch

Adventurer
I agree about moss wings any moss tent really. This year I snagged a snow peak wing!! maybe it was the moss tan and red that got me looking but glad I did. Just the stakes and hammer are so cool. It has been said before SNOWPEAK is like crack...
 

NuggetHoarder

Adventurer
Might want to consider making your own tarps. Check out Seattle Fabrics - silnylon Silicone Impregnated Ripstop Nylon Fabric

The silicone impregnated ripstop nylons are very lightweight. The bulk fabric is sold by the yard, generally in 5' widths. I hired a lady who likes to sew and had her stitch up a custom size for me. She added triple reinforced areas every 3' and I added push-on grommets at each reinforcement. The lady I found to sew for me had never sewn a tarp, so I brought an old canvas tarp sample to her, plus a pair of army issue ripstop BDU pants as examples of the reinforcing styles. I showed her how the tarp was reinforced and folded over at the stitch lines and showed her all the reinforcing on the pants and she took it from there and stitched it all up better than I could have hoped. I ended up with a 15'x15' tarp which was about $120 for material and about $50 for labor. I usually just tie up the corners to 4 trees at about 7' high and then use a few old aluminum tent poles to make a 9' center post. I had the seamstress sew a diamond shaped panel in the center of the tarp for reinforcement and I put a grommet there as well. The tent pole has a spike on the end that fits into the grommet. If the wind is blowing real hard, it can sometimes lift the tent off the center pole and your center pole will fall to the ground. The fix I use for that is to simply take a very large electrician's wire nut (a really big one) and a large fender washer and screw it down onto the tent spike and if the wind blows hard, the center pole will lift with the tarp but it won't fall out.

I've also used this same tarp setup like a wing. It's easy enough, two corners tied high in trees, two corners staked to the ground.

The real beauty of this tarp is that it will scrunch down to the size of a softball or smaller and most of that space is taken up by the paracord that I leave attached to the tarp.

I had the above described silnylon tarp custom made for when I'm camping alone. Next trip I take with a group, I'm thinking of trying out the Coleman instant screen house in 15x13. They also have a 10x10. I really like the idea of the 60 second setup and takedown. Plus, I like the idea of having a screen keeping the flies off the food. You just don't know where those campground flies have been with everyone crappin' in the woods! :Wow1:

Coleman Instant Screen house 15x13 product info

Coleman Instant Screen House 10x10 product info

Here's a video of it... only takes 60 seconds to setup and tear down.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C1Xam95JbM"]youtube - coleman instant screen house[/ame]
 

D-Morg

New member
I love the super flys. My only worry with a set up like that would be blowing rain or snow. The size however, looks just right!
 

D-Morg

New member
Might want to consider making your own tarps. Check out Seattle Fabrics - silnylon Silicone Impregnated Ripstop Nylon Fabric

The silicone impregnated ripstop nylons are very lightweight. The bulk fabric is sold by the yard, generally in 5' widths. I hired a lady who likes to sew and had her stitch up a custom size for me. She added triple reinforced areas every 3' and I added push-on grommets at each reinforcement. The lady I found to sew for me had never sewn a tarp, so I brought an old canvas tarp sample to her, plus a pair of army issue ripstop BDU pants as examples of the reinforcing styles. I showed her how the tarp was reinforced and folded over at the stitch lines and showed her all the reinforcing on the pants and she took it from there and stitched it all up better than I could have hoped. I ended up with a 15'x15' tarp which was about $120 for material and about $50 for labor. I usually just tie up the corners to 4 trees at about 7' high and then use a few old aluminum tent poles to make a 9' center post. I had the seamstress sew a diamond shaped panel in the center of the tarp for reinforcement and I put a grommet there as well. The tent pole has a spike on the end that fits into the grommet. If the wind is blowing real hard, it can sometimes lift the tent off the center pole and your center pole will fall to the ground. The fix I use for that is to simply take a very large electrician's wire nut (a really big one) and a large fender washer and screw it down onto the tent spike and if the wind blows hard, the center pole will lift with the tarp but it won't fall out.

I've also used this same tarp setup like a wing. It's easy enough, two corners tied high in trees, two corners staked to the ground.

The real beauty of this tarp is that it will scrunch down to the size of a softball or smaller and most of that space is taken up by the paracord that I leave attached to the tarp.

I had the above described silnylon tarp custom made for when I'm camping alone. Next trip I take with a group, I'm thinking of trying out the Coleman instant screen house in 15x13. They also have a 10x10. I really like the idea of the 60 second setup and takedown. Plus, I like the idea of having a screen keeping the flies off the food. You just don't know where those campground flies have been with everyone crappin' in the woods! :Wow1:

Coleman Instant Screen house 15x13 product info

Coleman Instant Screen House 10x10 product info

Here's a video of it... only takes 60 seconds to setup and tear down.
youtube - coleman instant screen house

I wouldn't mind going to DIY route. That's what it may come down to.

If I do make one myself it would look a little bit like this one...

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