Teaser

[dsw4x4]

Here is a teaser shot of my new quigly suspension system more to come later.
So far it has been performing well launches nicely and scares the crap out of hunters in the forest behind the house when I am busting down the trails doing 40 catching air. More details and maybe some trail time video before it is offered to the public. Here it is with 37s.

 

[silvElise]

Looks awesome! That is one mean van

 

[theicecreampeople]

lol..i sure the hunters love you ...your van looks sweet...

 

[Loopie]

Perfect stance on the van...nice!

 

[Sheep Shagger]

Very interested in the details of this. Please hurry up with pics and info.:drool:

 

[ujoint]

Don't be such a tease......

 

[matthewp]

Beautiful!:drool: That could turn me into a "van-man" very easily!

 

[dsw4x4]

Slowly working out all of the bugs, a little more testing and this system will be ready to sell to the public! 3.75 inches of lift firmer ride better handling and ride. 5 inches of up travel 4 of down travel, front axle moved forward 2 inches clears 37 inch tires with fender trimming 35s with out. Front links are 1/4 wall 2 inch od DOM with rebuildable/greasable johnny joints.
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Tweaked

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Let me know what you think?

 

[Loopie]

Let me know what you think?

Seriously awesome is what I think:costumed-smiley-007

 

[TroySmith80]

Wow, i don't really know anything about this stuff, but it looks good to me! lol

 

[Toolman]

I'd like to see a picture of the springs in the buckets and how they line up. Looks like a nice upgrade for a quigley. If I were to go down that road I would probably make the lower arm much longer and make the upper arm mount onto the lower arm ... like a Rubicon Express long arm kit for a TJ. That would get the arms parallel with the drive shaft. You would get more down travel..

From the pics it looks like you're getting a ton of body roll.

you asked.

 

[dsw4x4]

That would be a long arm kit and I am going to do that in the future but with my limited play time I first want to feel out the market to see if there is any interest in just a bolt on suspension system. The simple system is going to use stock arms the the next level is going use the control arms you see and the next will be a long arm kit. Yes it does have some body roll because one it is a hugh freakin van but two because I have the sway bar off and air in the rear air bags because I was not trying to get the van to ride level in these pictures I was trying show how the front axle articulates to do that I had to give it some body roll. I live up a twisty canyon road (hwy 34 to Estes for those that know the area), and that is the cool thing about this suspension is I can drive the road a lot faster and corner a lot more level over a stock quigly with less body roll making it much more fun to drive, then off road it articulates better and with the increased up travel it rides way better soaking up bumps that used to bottom out the front end with ease.
Derek

 

[Toolman]

How does the track bar line up with the axle pushed forward 2" ?

Do you need a longer pitman arm ?

What about the springs.... I think that coil overs may be the way to go, you can really dial in the ride according to load.

It seems as though the control arms will be the way to go if you're looking for some adjustment on the pinion angle, however, caster comes into play as well... If I had a Quigley I would definitely get rid of the arms they use and replace them with adjustable ones. In the jeep world we have quick disconnects on the sway bar for more articulation, JKS makes some that will work on the Vans as well, however the sway bar is mounted on the frame side not the axle side... something to figure out would be how to store the sway bar on the van while it's disconnected.

Sounds like you're fun just driving home.

 

[dsw4x4]

The track bars on these vans use pretty forgiving rubber bushings so they do not mind the two inch off set. There is no need to run a longer pitman arm. Yes that is one of the benefits of coils is ability to affordably tune them them to your liking. Swaybar disconnects will be a part of this suspension system. I am familiar the jeep stuff I have had my cj7 since 1989. The van sway bars are mounted to the frame on the front axle just like the old cjs (same bushings) the difference is on the ends the van does not use links like the jeeps. I am going to make end links for the sway bars though. I drove my van with out the sway bar and while it is tolerable it is not as safe feeling as it is with it connected. As tall as these vans are I believe that to be safe at highway speeds they need a sway bar. I used to run disconnects on my cj with 38 inch tires and I found that even driving it 1000+ miles to go wheeling I never even bothered to hook the disconnects back up to drive home because I did not notice much difference. Different story with the vans though. As for storing the sway bar when it is not in use you just put a pinned link on the frame, disconnect the sway bar flip your links over and pin them to the frame and your on your way. I am a little curious as to how the power wagons do it remotely. I have not had the chance to crawl under one yet.
I just caught the "you asked" comment, thats funny I did ask, I feel the best way to educate readers on the forum is to get people to speak up and ask any and all questions.
Derek

 

[RocKrawler]

I have seen a center sway bar disconnect, essentiallythe sway bar cut in half and sleeved with a large, strong pin that keeps it solid when on the road, and when pulled allows the halfs to rotate freely in the disconnected one side from the other, but never having to secure anything up because the ends remain connected. Just an idea...