TERMN-8R 6 band radio

[jeffjeeptj]

TERMN-8R Dual Band (6 Band RX) (VHF/UHF) GMRS, MURS, Amateur (Ham), Commercial Portable Two-Way Radio

Anybody know anything about this Chinese, 1 size does all?

Look at Amazon. A quick glance shows FRS, GMRS, NOAA, 2m, and 70cm. Appears to be Part 90, 95a, and 95j.

 

[prerunner1982]

http://www.miklor.com/COM/Review_TERMN-8R.php

https://anytonetech.com/TERMN-8R

 

[Tennmogger]

Does anyone else find the descriptions to be vague as to transmit coverage? One review says that Amateur 2m is receive only yet the other says the cross band works, implying ham band transmit on 2m and 70cm.

The description says "It can receive on UHF (400-520MHz), VHF (136-174MHz), Aircraft AM (108-136MHz), FM Broadcasts (64-108MHz), Short-Wave AM (2.3-30MHz), and AM Broadcasts (520-1710kHz)". Nowhere does it say it transmits on 2m or 70cm, and it certainly can't transmit on most of those other bands.

There are no performance specs either. An old crystal set will receive on lots of frequencies. Would be nice to see some selectivity and intermod info or we could be listening to Katy Perry singing on 2 meters.

"The TERMN-8R is able to Transmit and Receive fully on Narrowband (12.5kHz)." So what does that mean? Fully as in can transmit any frequency? Or fully 12.5 kHz deviation?

I would accept that this transceiver works transmit and receive on MURS and GMRS but want to hear a non-biased report from someone who paid money for one.

From the poor description it might be no more than a full coverage scanner with MURS and GMRS transmit.

Bob
WB4ETT

 

[DaveInDenver]

Yes, I suspect it'll have horrible bandwidth, selectivity and intermod. But according to the specs it'll TX through all the popular freeband spectrum.

Their website specs:
https://anytonetech.com/TERMN-8R#tabs-2

Frequency range:
[TX] 136 - 174MHz, 400 - 520MHz
[RX] 136 - 174MHz, 400 - 520MHz, 520-1710kHz (AM Broadcast), 2.3-30MHz (Shortwave), 68-108MHz (FM Broadcast), 108-136MHz (Aviation Band)

It does look like it's been submitted to the FCC for type approval.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...e=N&application_id=680375&fcc_id=T4K-8RSERIES

From the user's manual they submitted to the FCC:
Radio Versions

OBLTR-8R: Dual Band, Dual Frequency, Dual Standby, Dual Display, 2TONE/5Tone Encode
Decode
RX & TX: 151.8200-154.6000 & 462.5500-467.7250 MHz

TERMN-8R: Dual Band, Dual Frequency, Dual Standby, Dual Display, Cross-band Repeater,
MSK Encode/Decode (Text), 2TONE/5Tone Encode/Decode, Frequency Hopping (FHSS)
RX & TX: 151.8200-154.6000 & 462.5500-467.7250 MHz

I assume for the type testing they had firmware that met the rules for Part 90 but later revisions allow software to set TX frequencies anywhere within 136-174. I thought Yaesu got in trouble with the VX-7R and the ability to use software to select out of band TX, so I'm not sure how the Chinese manufacturers are getting away with it.

 

[gary in ohio]

TERMN-8R Dual Band (6 Band RX) (VHF/UHF) GMRS, MURS, Amateur (Ham), Commercial Portable Two-Way Radio

As with most chineese radio's the marking is bull ****... Its not a 6 band radio its a dual (2) band radio, VHF and UHF. The radio has a removable radio so NO way is it legal on FRS.
They say part 90/95 certified but the FCC has rejected dual GMRS/MURS radio so I see no reason this one will not be rejected.

I have ask Anytone and several other chineese vendors for FCC ID numbers and they usually dont reply or say it will be provided with the radio.

Untill I see lookup an FCC id on the radio and have the radio match what being sold I call this BS....

The radio would make a dual band ham radio with NOAA receive, at least legally you can use it for that.

 

[odomandr]

It's the new offering that replaced the baofengs, probably about the same as far as an ht goes

 

[dave1014]

I'm gonna check it out once it's available

 

[jeffjeeptj]

I would accept that this transceiver works transmit and receive on MURS and GMRS but want to hear a non-biased report from someone who paid money for one.
Bob
WB4ETT

Coincidentally, i just got an email from a good friend that he ordered one, will be at his house tomorrow. Will see what he says.

 

[AA1PR]

if its anything like the rest of the chinese products its too good to be true

receive stinks, audio is wide, picks up lots of interference

buy from the 3 Japanese brands, icom, kenwood yeasu

 

[DaveInDenver]

I have ask Anytone and several other chineese vendors for FCC ID numbers and they usually dont reply or say it will be provided with the radio.

Look up the applications and grant status for yourself.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
http://fccid.net

The main Chinese radio manufacturer's FCC Grantee Codes:

Anytone is T4K
Wouxun is WVT
Baofeng is ZP5

 

[JimBiram]

I just got the Termn-8R today through Amazon and programmed in some frequencies. Since I have an Anytone mobile radio, the programming software is very similar. It does transmit amateur, part 90, part 95 gmrs and MURS. You must set the band when you turn radio on. You can't set gmrs on one side and ham on the other. So it does allow you to have an "all in one" radio for different circumstances. I'll know more after using this weekend on a Land Ops trip and will compare with my Wouxun radios.


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[gary in ohio]

I just got the Termn-8R today through Amazon and programmed in some frequencies. Since I have an Anytone mobile radio, the programming software is very similar.

So someplace on the radio should be an FCC ID, Can you provide that, would love to look at the certification for it.

 

[DaveInDenver]

I think the burr in Gary's saddle over FCC ID T4K-8RSERIES is summed up in this thread:
http://forums.radioreference.com/bu...g-tech-deliberately-misleading-consumers.html

The Part 95J (MURS) grant letter for application 680375 that shows the approval for 0.19W dissipated with 15K0F3E (which according to the user's manual the radio can't even do 15K0F3E, just analog phone 12.5KHz and 25KHz). This is mentioned in the thread as wildly unrealistic.
http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=T4K-8RSERIES&id=680375

The Part 95A (GMRS) grant letter for application 627780 that shows approval over a range of 70cm frequencies at 4.55W and 4.8W.
http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=T4K-8RSERIES&id=627780

It's a legitimate question, certainly for the price they are asking and marketing them as multiple type approved radios it should be looked into.

I have not be able to confirm the fccid.net information on the FCC's own website, so can't say for sure where they got it. Nowhere is there a Part 90 application or authorization that I can find for T4K-8RSERIES.

If you parse the marketing sheets it actually doesn't seem to claim Type 90 certification, just compliance. Which isn't even true since it's got an externally available VFO and that automatically disqualifies it. Anyway, it seems they may be claiming Part 90 with FCC ID T4K-QZQX3318, which is a completely different radio.

 

[JimBiram]

The FCC ID is T4K-QZQX3318


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[JimBiram]

http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=T4K-QZQX3318&id=593484#axzz3UAuFw1Jn has info on all of the certifications.


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