The Volkswagen Type 181

upcruiser

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AKA the Thing.

I was downstate at my pole barn where I store my vehicles this past week and spent some time comtemplating my forlorn but trusty old VW Thing. The Vdub was my first car when I was 16. Prior to that it was my father's daily driver for a good 10 or 11 years. We took it on hunting trips to the UP of Michigan, loaded down with 2 dogs, three people, all of our gear, plus a camper trailer and did so with no complaint. I've always considered it one of the most underated offroad vehicles out there. Basically it used the VW Beetle's floorpan and 1600 dual port engine. The suspesnion, brakes, and other driveline bits come from the Type 2 (bus). The car's strength is its light weight. With no interior accomdations other then seat cushions and its simple design it is a light weight. With the engine behind the rear wheels, it has formidable traction off the pavement similar to a dune buggy. It's pretty versatile too, with a removable convertible top (or an available hardtop), removable doors, and a fold down windscreen it can look the part of the original Kubelwagen. Economy was pretty good with me calculating 25-27mpg with some fairly aggressive snow tires I always had on it. Performance wasn't bad either with the light weight it was much quicker then a bug. I saw 90mph on the speedometer once with mine, not shabby.

My Thing has been sitting now unregistered since 1993. I'm hoping over the next couple of years to start the long road of restoration with it. The idea I'm toying with is to go with a WWII look paint job (desert sand biege, or an olive green) and maybe a small lift for clearance. I'm not going for a concours restoration. I'm planning on doing body repair to the cancer that accrued from years of driving on the evil salty roads that are Northern Michgigan's in the winter. I want it to be solid, but I don't need it perfect. I plan to use the car and don't want to worry about pinstriping it in the woods or getting it dirty. Anyway I thought I'd share my ideas a bit since its a fairly uncommon vehicle and I figured some of you might find it interesting.

Here's a picture of one that I found with a lift of about what I'd like to do with mine...
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Paint-wise, I'm thinking something along the lines of this....
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While I'm not intending to use if for expedition work really, I would like to drive it cross country and do a western trek in it. Otherwise it would be used primarily for a fun weekend, beach cruiser, and local backwoods explorer.
 

datrupr

Expedition Leader
Very cool. Way back when I was in High School a friend of mine had a "Thing". He took that car everywhere. Eventually the brakes went out, and he was using the engine and e-brake to stop the car for a coouple of days before he could fix the brake problem. During those couple of days he could not stop and got T-Boned and the "Thing" was totalled. I still have a soft spot in my heart for the old Vdubs.
 

kcowyo

ExPo Original
Among the random, weird shite I'll geek out for, the VW Thing is near the top of the list. I'm so glad you posted up, Yooper. ;)

When I was a wee lad growing up in the southern suburbs of the 70's, we had a neighbor who had an orange Thing. He was an older gentlemen who would let me sit in it in his driveway. I would grab that steering wheel and bounce up and down in his seat and imagine I was flying down the sandy beaches of the nearby NC Outerbanks. :smiley_drive:

He had it sitting out under his tree for years and as I recall it was in good shape at the time. He passed away when I was in my teens and his kids cleaned out his house and I'm not sure what became of the Thing. I remember telling my Dad that when I turned 16, I wanted a Thing for my first car. He looked at me, with Chevy blood in his veins, like I had a turd hanging out of my mouth and I never mentioned it again.

I can directly link some of my earliest adventure daydreams as a child to the VW Thing. I also credit that fascination as a child with my life long attraction to oddball and unique vehicles. Maybe someday I'll find myself in the seat of a Thing, running down the sand and waves of a beach for reals.

Until then I'm more than happy to follow your resto and check any links and pics you want to post. Great thread topic!! :coffee:
 

upcruiser

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kcowyo said:
Among the random, weird shite I'll geek out for, the VW Thing is near the top of the list. I'm so glad you posted up, Yooper. ;)

When I was a wee lad growing up in the southern suburbs of the 70's, we had a neighbor who had an orange Thing. He was an older gentlemen who would let me sit in it in his driveway. I would grab that steering wheel and bounce up and down in his seat and imagine I was flying down the sandy beaches of the nearby NC Outerbanks. :smiley_drive:

He had it sitting out under his tree for years and as I recall it was in good shape at the time. He passed away when I was in my teens and his kids cleaned out his house and I'm not sure what became of the Thing. I remember telling my Dad that when I turned 16, I wanted a Thing for my first car. He looked at me, with Chevy blood in his veins, like I had a turd hanging out of my mouth and I never mentioned it again.

I can directly link some of my earliest adventure daydreams as a child to the VW Thing. I also credit that fascination as a child with my life long attraction to oddball and unique vehicles. Maybe someday I'll find myself in the seat of a Thing, running down the sand and waves of a beach for reals.

Until then I'm more than happy to follow your resto and check any links and pics you want to post. Great thread topic!! :coffee:

OMG! That just cracked me up! Wow I was laughing out loud at that one. I can totally relate too. I credit my weird automotive tastes alot to that vehicle. My father also had an FJ40 which began my Land Cruiser addiction. Funny how we are shaped by certain childhood experiences. Awesome post!:D

Hopefully once I finally get my 80 out of the door of the barn, I'll start the dissasemble of the the Thing. I need to save up some money for the reassembly, but dissambley is free.:D
 

datrupr

Expedition Leader
kcowyo said:
Among the random, weird shite I'll geek out for, the VW Thing is near the top of the list.

I remember telling my Dad that when I turned 16, I wanted a Thing for my first car. He looked at me, with Chevy blood in his veins, like I had a turd hanging out of my mouth and I never mentioned it again.

:xxrotflma :xxrotflma :xxrotflma

Very eloquent KC! That cracked me up so hard that I am getting odd remarks from my coworkers. I actually had to read it again after I stopped laughing.
 

robert

Expedition Leader
Things have become quite collectible as they were only imported in '73 and '74. Restoring one can be fairly expensive as parts have gone up a lot in the last few years. Fortunately there isn't a lot to them so that will save you some funds. Check out Ebay some time for what they are selling for- I bet you'll be surprised.

Check out thesamba.com for some good info and also:
http://www.thethingshop.com
http://www.thingsunlimited.net
http://www.thingtech.com/
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/vwthings/links.html

I've read stories from a couple of people who have driven them across the country and quite a few who offroad them pretty hard. One of the guys who drove his cross country took the passnger seat out and had a platform to sleep on. Pretty cool stuff.

I had a '74 for a while that my brother sold while I was in Iraq and before I got a chance to restore it. Still mad at him for that but that's another story. :mad:
 

upcruiser

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Robert, thanks for posting up the links. Yeah, I've been noticing an upward jump in the values lately too, especially for nice examples. I'm thinking that this will be a nice project to do over a few years time. If it was anything more mechanically complex, I doubt I'd tackle it, but thankfully the Thing is painfully simple. I'm sure I'll learn alot along the way still though. The body work is really the stuff that I'm going to need to learn alot about and probably get creative. I've got some bad rocker panel rust on the driver's side. I rebuilt the carb a couple of summers ago, replaced the fuel pump, and changed the oil on it, but that's about the last thing I've done. It hasn't been started now in about 10 years. I can't wait to get started on it really.
 

blupaddler

Conspirator
YEAH!!!


I was wondering about that when I saw it in your sig a couple of days ago. I have owned a handful of VW's (2 buses, 2 baja's, 1 beetle). But, never a Thing. I would love to get one someday...



Also, like Robert said, thesamba is probably one of the best VW websites around. I have spent much time drooling over there.
 

upcruiser

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Doin_It said:
Here is a Canadian web site, that imports parts for the Iltis, which was a replacement for The Thing. So if you want one in diesel with locking diff's front and back they may be able to get one for you still out of Germany.

http://www.iltis.ca/default.htm

Great link. I've always admired the Iltis but considered it a bit exotic. I've never even seen one in real life. According to that link, a '79-'81 German Iltis can be imported to NY for $8,000! That's pretty awesome. I didn't realize that any Iltis could be registered legally in the US. Too bad the turbo diesel isn't legit yet.
 

upcruiser

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blupaddler said:
YEAH!!!


I was wondering about that when I saw it in your sig a couple of days ago. I have owned a handful of VW's (2 buses, 2 baja's, 1 beetle). But, never a Thing. I would love to get one someday...



Also, like Robert said, thesamba is probably one of the best VW websites around. I have spent much time drooling over there.

I have a pretty big soft spot for old v dubs. That's why I'm such a Porschephile too really. I had a '70 Westy for awhile, my ex girlfriend has it currently. Also had a '69 911E. I'd like to someday have a nice early '60's bug to cruise around with.
 

calamaridog

Expedition Leader
It makes more sense to build a Beetle due to parts availability. My first car was a 1969 Beetle. 14.9 second quarter mile:littlefriend:
 

upcruiser

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calamaridog said:
It makes more sense to build a Beetle due to parts availability. My first car was a 1969 Beetle. 14.9 second quarter mile:littlefriend:

Yeah, its unbelievable the performance you can get out of a Beetle, and that's before forced induction. I think it would be cool to have an old Beetle and open up some eyes on some muscle car owners.
 

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