Tires and age (the tires are old, not me, well nm)

craig333

Expedition Leader
Okay, the tires on the Jeep are ten years old. It doesn't see many miles. BFG mud terrains still with 3/4 tread life left, sidewalls looks excellent. No ages signs I can see. Its garaged and the sidewalls see frequent coats of 303. I hate to replace tires that still seem to be in great shape but theres that age thing. If it unsafe I'll bite the bullet. Any tire experts out there?
 

Alastair D(Aus)

aging but active
Craig,
Not a tyre expert but over the years I have gained quite a few insights.

I have had a lot of vehicles over the years and particularly early on they were parked ourside and I could see the effects of sunlight and the UV therein. At the first sign of any sidewall cracking, fine ones not big splits, I would change tyres. In recent times the technology seems to have moved on a lot and I have had one set of tyres on a trailer that lives outside for over 10 years and the tyres show no age related degredation (unlike me).

The tyre dealer I use most of the time claims that he sees many truck tyres that have been regrooved or retreaded over many years and have not caused any problems. His one proviso is that the tyres are not used at high speeds. I know of people who deliberately store a set of tyres for several years to let the compound harden on the basis that they get better perfomance in rough rocky country. They are hard core off roaders and seem to know their stuff.

So I think that provide you do not drive consistently at high speed and look out for any signs of hair line cracks you should be fine.

cheers
 

4x4junkie

Explorer
Yeah if they look good, run 'em.
Tires degrade much slower when garaged (I've seen tires last 25 years on garage-kept vehicles that are seldom driven, not talking pampered ones either, just stored on the other side of a two-car garage where the DD normally lives).
 

craig333

Expedition Leader
I do tow it any time I go out of town. Definitely going to put replacement on the fast track though. Its a dangerous enough vehicle as is without worrying about tire failure.
 

jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
A buddy of mine runs an original set of BFG Mud-Terrains that are 13 years old on his YJ, he bought them about 7 years ago with 90% tread on them and they still have about 80% left. It gets towed to any out of town trails and is parked in his garage when not being used. I asked him about running the older tires after I replaced his clutch one day and they still get him up some tough stuff just like any newer DOT legal tire would. My KM2's are about 6 years old and my KO's are about 8 years old, age has far less to do with a tire than how they are treated, just like an engine.
 

Weeds

Adventurer
FYI Some of the name brand tire stores will not repair or remount any tire that is 11 years old or older. Liability claims.
 

NMC_EXP

Explorer
Okay, the tires on the Jeep are ten years old. It doesn't see many miles. BFG mud terrains still with 3/4 tread life left, sidewalls looks excellent. No ages signs I can see. Its garaged and the sidewalls see frequent coats of 303. I hate to replace tires that still seem to be in great shape but theres that age thing. If it unsafe I'll bite the bullet. Any tire experts out there?

I spent 30 yrs doing rubber materials and component R&D, engineering and manufacturing at Caterpilar Inc.

For the types of rubber commonly used for tires, weatherstripping and other parts other than oil seals, the big killers are: heat, UV light, oxygen, ozone and petroleum based fluids.

The cracks that develop in tires (weatherchecking) are primarily due to UV light, oxygen and ozone. These factors chemically break the long rubber molecules into shorter fragments. The cracks are the visual evidence of this.

As a practical matter, I do not believe sidewall cracking reduces the strength of the tire directly. However, it can allow water to infiltrate into the reinforcing cords and cables. This can result in the cords and cables unbonding from the rubber. Once unbonded they can act as a cable saw and start cutting into the tire and weakening the carcass.

After the Rubber Tech 101 dissertation, the short answer is: if it were me and there was little or no sidewall cracking, I would run the tires.

I would add that due to the tires age it is even more important to keep them properly inflated and do not overload them. Underinflation and overloading = overheating. Every 18° temperature rise doubles the rate of rubber thermal degradation.

Rubber is organic and does change/degrade over time, even at ambient temp. Sitting in a warehouse for ten years uses up a small fraction of the life of the rubber in the tire.

Regards

Jim

p.s. don't rubber the wrong way.
 

quickfarms

Adventurer
I am still running original tires on the duels of both of my 1989 trucks. The key to keeping old tires alive is to keep them fully inflated
 

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