Toyota Tacoma Short Bed DC and FWC Finch

cobblecrazy

Adventurer
We moved on to the Redwood National Forest and the Gold Bluff's Beach campground. A 6 mile dirt road through the coastal redwoods led out to the beach and campground.



Again, 9 miles of dog friendly beach. The trails weren't open to her, but she was just as happy in the sand and coastal grasses.









There was a 2 mile dirt road through the redwoods they block off that is also dog friendly, as well as, being through some of the most beautiful area around.





Always a good dinner at night. A little local smoked salmon, noodles, and a good beer...



Some locals were always on hand..

 
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cobblecrazy

Adventurer
A quick stop at the Mad River Brewery for lunch and to stock up for the night.



Weaverville, and the Trinity Alps were our last stop.







The mining museum was having a "learn how to be a blacksmith" hands on classes in one of the buildings. Wish I would have had the time to stick around, but a quick look around the museum was cool.





An old beer making contraption caught my eye.



We drove up to the "lake", but there was not much lake there. All the campgrounds along the lake were closed. A small sign showing camping pointed up along a valley/river so we took a chance. About 5 miles later (about 3 of it dirt double track) we found a nice National Forest campground and a trailhead.

 

cobblecrazy

Adventurer
While we were on the vacation, I got a call from Eric at Relentless Fabrication to let me know my front bumper was done. When we got home I got everything set up to get the bumper on. That included a quick trip to 4Wheel Parts for a winch. I found out there was a sale on the 12K lb model which made it the same price as the 9.5K model, and only a 2 lb difference. Not a rocket scientist, but that decision was easy.

The mounting of the controller unit was somewhat tricky, but I was able to utilize two of the brackets in the box. One attached to the side of the cross bar.


While the other was an L bracket that I attacked to the back pre-drilled holes and then one into the bumper.



This placed the plug in line with one of the pre-existing holes in the front.



I got the full bull bars on my bumper. They sit fairly flush along the front, and can only be slightly seen from the driver's seat (the angle of the pic actually shows more of the bumper than I actually see in the seat).





A 22" Rampage LED light bar (combo pattern) completed that part of the build (I'll add some Piaa 4" round fog lights a little later).

 
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cobblecrazy

Adventurer
During the initial part of the camper build I had been doing some perusing of sites, and I came across a posting by Rocky Mountain FWC regarding a Tacoma DC/Finch combo like mine. I learned the Tacoma had a OME Dakar spring pack like mine, but they had added the extra leaf available from OME (model D29XL if anyone's interested). On a visit to FWC in Woodland we were able to get in touch with Chris at RMFWC, and basically the extra leaf was recommended for people leaving the camper on, were doing more off highway travel, and/or putting expedition weights on the truck/camper. If we were taking the camper on and off regularly, the extra leaf was not as much of an issue and the Dakars would work fine stock.

My goal had always been not to have to re-do any of the suspension components, but I had no idea how much the camper, bumper, winch, etc. would really affect the ride height and comfort until they were actually on there. And, during the suspension build I had the teardrop as our RV (and the ARE shell on the back of the truck) so the Dakars were more than enough for the load.

The information I found showed the extra leaf for the Dakars would increase the height by 15mm. The front Icon coilover shocks I purchased were the extended travel version so I knew whatever I decided I would be fine.

I measured the wheel well height prior to putting the camper on, and I was sitting around 41" from the ground to the center of the wheel well (measured at the back since I was sitting rear high). Once the camper was on it came down to around 37 - 38". The addition of all the gear during our trip sunk it down a little more, and the ride was somewhat stiff. Since I didn't have a GoPro to video the shocks at work I was reduced to having to look at the dirt ring on the shock shaft which kind of showed me how much travel I was getting. I didn't see much, and I noticed not much of the shaft was showing in the first place.

Once the bumper and winch were on I knew it was time for a change.

I ordered the extra pair of OME leafs (about $60), and I set up an appointment with a local 4x4 shop to get them installed, as well as, to adjust the front coilovers and do an alignment. My instructions to them was to have the truck sitting as level as possible (with the camper on) so it would again sit a little high in the rear without the weight.

Prior to the install I measured the amount of threads "used" on the front coilover. It was around 1 1/4 to 1 3/8. When I got it back the threads used were well over 2" (with about 2-3" still available). The wheel well height from the ground was back up to the 40" range.

Immediately as I drove away, I noticed a remarked difference in the ride. The front coilover adjuster is set at 6 (9 available), and the truck felt silky smooth over the bumps. I could tell the shocks were actually working as I looked for holes and bumps during the drive home. I got some dirt miles in as well and I'm happy to report the ride continued to make me smile. I think I could run the adjuster at 4 or 5 for some day to day driving to make it even better.

I would suggest anyone who knows their camper will stay on the truck, or you are going to push the limits of weight, the additional leaf to the Dakar pack is worth the money (one on-line company offered to pre-install the extra leaf for $30).
 

Keyne

Adventurer
Really like that truck/camper color combo. Sweet setup. I think I need to start talking to my wife about getting one of these...
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
I see you hit some of our no trailers allowed spots on the coast! The more I think about our current camping rig and my interests the midsized truck with the FWC set up seems ideal and reading your thoughts going through the decision process confirms it all the same ideas and thoughts I'm having. LOL Did you notice an improvement in ride quality with the upgraded suspension bits?

Say did you get to look at the Flatbed FWC? What was your take on it? I want to go see it. My general thoughts are side door removes the issue of having a trailer impeding camper access, the rear table seating layout seems interesting also. I do like the single couch/bed option in the standard FWC over the dinette setup.

Great info and thoughts!!!
Thank you for sharing
 

cobblecrazy

Adventurer
I see you hit some of our no trailers allowed spots on the coast! The more I think about our current camping rig and my interests the midsized truck with the FWC set up seems ideal and reading your thoughts going through the decision process confirms it all the same ideas and thoughts I'm having. LOL Did you notice an improvement in ride quality with the upgraded suspension bits?

Say did you get to look at the Flatbed FWC? What was your take on it? I want to go see it. My general thoughts are side door removes the issue of having a trailer impeding camper access, the rear table seating layout seems interesting also. I do like the single couch/bed option in the standard FWC over the dinette setup.

Great info and thoughts!!!
Thank you for sharing

I really think the upgrades we made in the suspension has made all the difference in the world. I've experienced the "rock and roll" of a failed airbag "suspension", as well as, just the constant tinkering with the airbags (I've had two different brands - same results) - not good. A well thought out suspension system - and I will put an emphasis on system - does not have to break the bank, nor does it have to be able to go 100 mph on the Baja 1000 route. I think Bilstein makes some really nice, inexpensive stuff (see what they're putting on the new Pro Toyota line), I think OME makes a really nice package, and even the Rancho 9000 line has a nice ride quality. Having said that, I really have great things to say about the Icon stuff I got. I like the OME Dakar leaf pack (I put on the extra leaf after our first trip), but I may look at a little beefier 10 leaf pack (Deaver or similar) at some point.

I really like their flatbed design, but it would not work on my shorted Tacoma. I like the layout - a dinette is really nice sometimes - especially if I was spending months at a time in the truck/camper, but it's also nice to have a place for others to sit down out of the way while you're fixing food inside, or just a group getting in out of the weather. I think the flatbed design can make a Tacoma into a small version of the Earthroamer or similar vehicle. The side entry definitely has it's advantages. I've followed the travels of www.arestlesstransplant.com and I really like his rig - see his February 11,2014 blog post (about the 4th page). I have thought the shortbed Tacoma with a utility bed and the Finch might be a really nice setup...I can't seem to figure out how to present the idea to my wife though :)))
 
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calicamper

Expedition Leader
I really think the upgrades we made in the suspension has made all the difference in the world. I've experienced the "rock and roll" of a failed airbag "suspension", as well as, just the constant tinkering with the airbags (I've had two different brands - same results) - not good. A well thought out suspension system - and I will put an emphasis on system - does not have to break the bank, nor does it have to be able to go 100 mph on the Baja 1000 route. I think Bilstein makes some really nice, inexpensive stuff (see what they're putting on the new Pro Toyota line), I think OME makes a really nice package, and even the Rancho 9000 line has a nice ride quality. Having said that, I really have great things to say about the Icon stuff I got. I like the OME Dakar leaf pack (I put on the extra leaf after our first trip), but I may look at a little beefier 10 leaf pack (Deaver or similar) at some point.

I really like their flatbed design, but it would not work on my shorted Tacoma. I like the layout - a dinette is really nice sometimes - especially if I was spending months at a time in the truck/camper, but it's also nice to have a place for others to sit down out of the way while you're fixing food inside, or just a group getting in out of the weather. I think the flatbed design can make a Tacoma into a small version of the Earthroamer or similar vehicle. The side entry definitely has it's advantages. I've followed the travels of www.arestlesstransplant.com and I really like his rig - see his February 11,2014 blog post (about the 4th page). I have thought the shortbed Tacoma with a utility bed and the Finch might be a really nice setup...I can't seem to figure out how to present the idea to my wife though :)))


I need to go see that Flat bed model I'm only about an hour from the factory. I wonder with some creative mods that rear dinette could be set up as a small kids bunk bed.. Hmm we have a 3yr old and 6yr old. By the time they are too big for the (across width) they'll want to sleep in tents out side most of the time anyway. LOL

Been there done that with airbags, not a big fan of the air bags had to suffer 22hrs from Dillon back to the Bay Area with a leaky hose and pump running every 30 minutes on a Yukon set up with air bags. I couldn't wait to get out of that thing!!! Good spring pack for the added weight hands down the simple and best way to go if the load is going to be on the truck all the time.

So the Flat bed model is that for the long bed only? I hadn't thought about that I like the short bed for parking challenges and turning radius but there is that extra length thats nice too. Thanks for sharing. I'm probably a year or two away from being able to sell the wife on an upgrade and to down grade our sailboat which would fund the FWC and truck build. I would probably end up with a small light boat 1500lbs and under to drag to various points of sailing interest. Fun reading someone's notes and thought process that was pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Thanks!
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
Quick question and sorry if this has been asked already: I really like the Pyrite Myca color and that's the color I want if I get a Taco. When I go to the build site I cant choose that color for a DCSB OR. Did you custom order the color or was it on the lot? I see it's an option for a DCLB but I'm not sure I want a LB. Truck and camper combo looks beautiful. Nice work!
 

cobblecrazy

Adventurer
Quick question and sorry if this has been asked already: I really like the Pyrite Myca color and that's the color I want if I get a Taco. When I go to the build site I cant choose that color for a DCSB OR. Did you custom order the color or was it on the lot? I see it's an option for a DCLB but I'm not sure I want a LB. Truck and camper combo looks beautiful. Nice work!

Thanks.

It was on the lot. In fact I had the option for the DCSB sport, or the off-road, chose the latter for the factory rear locker option. The Toyota dealer in Reno did not have one on the lot, but they did a search and could have gotten me one in a few weeks and for about $500 extra in shipping costs. Luckily I was able to find at the dealership in Carson City. When I was down in Chula Vista I thought I saw one at the Toyota dealership at Brandywine and Main St.

I like the shortbed for a variety of reasons, but if they would have had a LBDC I think I would have gone with that option as, at the time, I was putting on a shell and had my off-road teardrop. I have always liked the Nemo tent guys Tacoma build http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/120861-The-Nemo-Tacoma-2008-4x4-Toyota-Tacoma-Long-Bed The long bed (I had a 6' bed extra cab in the 90's) is really nice for sleeping in the back with the shell as you can button up the shell door and the tailgate in the bad weather. One other thing would be the long bed and the Finch (they have since re-named this model) FWC. You could get the Eagle, or Fleet, for the long bed and get an additional 10" of space in the camper, but I think I might still go with the Finch on the long bed so I could run any rear bumper/swing out tire carrier/storage box without having to go custom (Aluminess makes a really nice one that accounts for the overhang if you go that route though). I'm not sure I could still have my tailgate on with the longbed and Finch, but, if it was possible, it would be nice to have the small "porch" and my backup camera (although I'm looking at a few options to hook up the camera with my current setup).
 
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SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
Right on thanks for the reply! I love the color.

I wish I could get a FWC. I would love to have one but honestly I wouldn't use it nearly as much as I like to think I would and it wouldn't fit in my garage at home or my garage at work.

Appreciate the info!
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
I need to go see that Flat bed model I'm only about an hour from the factory. I wonder with some creative mods that rear dinette could be set up as a small kids bunk bed.. Hmm we have a 3yr old and 6yr old. By the time they are too big for the (across width) they'll want to sleep in tents out side most of the time anyway. LOL

Been there done that with airbags, not a big fan of the air bags had to suffer 22hrs from Dillon back to the Bay Area with a leaky hose and pump running every 30 minutes on a Yukon set up with air bags. I couldn't wait to get out of that thing!!! Good spring pack for the added weight hands down the simple and best way to go if the load is going to be on the truck all the time.

So the Flat bed model is that for the long bed only? I hadn't thought about that I like the short bed for parking challenges and turning radius but there is that extra length thats nice too. Thanks for sharing. I'm probably a year or two away from being able to sell the wife on an upgrade and to down grade our sailboat which would fund the FWC and truck build. I would probably end up with a small light boat 1500lbs and under to drag to various points of sailing interest. Fun reading someone's notes and thought process that was pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Thanks!

Answered my own question the flat bed fleet model was designed for short bed Tacoma it does have an 80inch floor span. So really its no different regarding that over hang than the standard set up with the stock bed. Looking at the photos of the rear dinette it also looks very possible to rig up a creative simple bunk platform for kids in that rear dinette space. For sure interesting option. Now I just need to get our camping program ramped up so the wife can be sold on the idea of upgrading from a basic tent trailer to a big boy camping rig ;-)
 

cobblecrazy

Adventurer
Cab roof rack

I came across this company in another thread and was wondering if anyone has dealt with them. http://www.prinsudesignstudio.com/#!products/c1m4k Specifically looking at this one http://www.prinsudesignstudio.com/#!tacoma-cabrac/chjh

I like the BajaRack style which is very similar to this one, and Frontrunner makes a nice one as well, but this one seemed to be almost a combo of both. I like the fairing and the way it hugs the roof like as this would be going between my roof and the FWC.

Anyway, looking for any input.
 
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