Trailer a trail liability?

Viggen

Just here...
So, Im thinking that I am going to build a diesel YJ hardtop as my long distance camping rig and since its going to be just my gf and I about 99% of the time, the swb of the Wrangler will be no problem at all. I have no problem with the smaller size of the YJ because I plan on running a trailer to carry the tent, stove, cooking equipment, etc... The interior will be for mechanical spares and a few bags of clothes and such. Heres my question though: Is an expedition trailer a liability at all? How maneuverable are they? How prone to roll over are they? How do they handle rough, uneven terrain?

Thanks
 

Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
I ran an off-road trailer for several years. My answer is that they are both a asset and a liability, depending on your use.

The main positives...

They allow you to carry more fuel, spare tires, fridge, water and gear

They provide a nice 'base camp' situation

They are a great platform for an RTT and mobile kitchen

The main negatives:

They are hard on gear, due to vibration, pounding, etc. Suspension is important

They do limit maneuverability on tight trails

They require separate licensing and a place for storage

Many people find that they are worth the negatives... other do not.
 

BigDaveZJ

Adventurer
The only downfall I experienced on a 300 mile dirt trip with my M416 was when I had to backup on the trail, but after a little practice that wasn't even that hard.
 

ExpoMike

Well-known member
My take is similar to above but I also wanted to add, since we do some solo vehicle trips, I find the trailer helps to keep me in check on my travels. I tend to be a little more cautious on my routes with the trailer and the likelihood of getting into a bad spot by myself (especially since I don't have a winch yet) is lower.

For us, there has been no real downside and I know my wife would not travel/camp if we didn't have the trailer.
 

Borrego60

Rendezvous Conspiracy
Only problem for me is going slower on dirt rds. You do have to be aware you are pulling a trailer and speed is important,you do not want to roll it. Just be smart and heads up while driving.
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Of course they're a liability. The question is, are they less of a liability than you would have on the same trail with all the same things loaded in/on your truck. I'd rather have a tippy trailer than a tippy truck. ;)
 

Mr. Leary

Glamping Excursionaire
Of course they're a liability. The question is, are they less of a liability than you would have on the same trail with all the same things loaded in/on your truck. I'd rather have a tippy trailer than a tippy truck. ;)

Excellent point.

After seeing an offroad trailer up close this last weekend, I am sold on them. In a YJ especially, you will always be short on space. Nice to be able to drop that trailer and be lightweight for a day of rougher stuff as well. You will not be able to do extreme trails with any trailer, but the ability to stay packed up, ready to go will get you out much more often.

I will be investing in a trailer soon myself. The positives far outweigh the negatives for me....
 

cruiseroutfit

Well-known member
From an older thread on a different forum but my reply stands:

The trailer is not the god send I once thought it would become, it is however another 'tool in the shed' if you will and it should be utilized as such. When I first started building my trailer in 00'/01' I figured it would be an added appendage of my FJ40, like always attached regardless of the type of trip I planned to voyage out on. With that in mind I built it to go anywhere I was comfortable taking my FJ40 and had plans to incorporate everything I could, 12V power, water, fuel, tent, cooking, counter tops, propane, generator, you name it. Building it as such did leave some trade-offs in the forms of practicality, none that I've really regretted but I do wish it was bigger at times? I've honestly never really finished my 'build' I've got boxes of parts and components I've wanted to install, things as simple as interior dome lights and setups for water, etc. Really I don't know if I'll ever get around to it. With a nice fleet of Scepter cans I've grown accustom to to just using the trailer as raw storage rather than really outfitting it to the point where I feel like I would be lacking if I decided to leave it home for a trip. Right now it is storage and a tent platform. If I'm doing a trip where a ground tent is appropriate or preferred, then the trailer is just storage. If I'm doing a trip where I won't need storage beyond what I can pack in the 40, the trailer stays home, pretty simple. I don't rely on it for water, for my stove, for my shade, its just a tool. I don't take it just to be taking it.

My trailer handles and tows like a dream both on and off-road. It does little in the way of slowing me down in the grand scheme of a trip but it is undoubtedly more 'work', on a more difficult trail you need to plan all obstacles with the trailer in mind, you need to plan your stopping spots and even campsites around having the trailer behind you. For me, a trailer slowing me down or limiting where I can go would be a compromise. For some that isn't a limiting factor and if you get a more comfortable camp setup by having to slow down a bit I can totally see how that ranks up.

My trailer use has dwindled since I first 'finished' it for use in 04? Those first few years it probably got 15-20 trips a year, and last year I probably took it out less than 10? Part of that is the fact I've now got a tent on my Tacoma and with the pickup bed I don't have the storage issues you have with a 40. Though I most often travel with just my wife and our dog. Add a couple little-ones to the equation and I can imagine needing the trailer even behind the Tacoma, that or my wife and I will have to start driving separately. :D
 

RMP&O

Expedition Leader
You will not be able to do extreme trails with any trailer, but the ability to stay packed up, ready to go will get you out much more often.

I will be investing in a trailer soon myself. The positives far outweigh the negatives for me....

What do you consider extreme? I have a friend in Arizona who has hauled his home built trailer on trails like Terminator, Crown King and many others. That is behind his K5 Chevy....he has taken his trailer places fairly stock trucks can't even go. I think it dpends on what you consider extreme, the trailer suspension, trailer hitch and how good of a driver you are.
 

alosix

Expedition Leader
From what I've been able to tell hauling mine around the trailer does cut the ability of the vehicle a good bit.

A trail that you'd consider extreme without the trailer may not be doable with it.

A trail that you consider moderate is going to feel extreme.

An easy trail is more work.

There is definitely a lot more planning of your route needed. Backing up doesn't work the same, hurting your retry chances for an obstacle by a good bit.

Steep ascents and descents take a lot more care. Especially going down if you don't have brakes on the trailer. I still need to add electric ones to mine, but for most steep/loose downhills I engage the parking brakes on it.
 

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