Trailer in Design stage

[The Artisan]

Maybe, but the pop-up structure needs to be refined. Even from the video, there's too much time spent with fiddly bits. From what I've seen of @The Artisan's design, it's a simpler, quicker process.

And can be used to expand space outward.
Kevin

 

[billiebob]

Maybe, but the pop-up structure needs to be refined. Even from the video, there's too much time spent with fiddly bits. From what I've seen of @The Artisan's design, it's a simpler, quicker process.

Some refinement might be a good thing, but it sure beats the heck out of any factory built I've seen. Those things from Australia are the fideliest trailers ever. WAY too many moving parts.

Even without refinement, which would be a natural process leading into production, the home built FoxTail blows away what is out there.

 

[Teardropper]

Three thumbs up on Sketchup. ?

I'm currently on my fourth teardrop and having the option of looking at the Sketchup file and re-checking the measurements has been a huge deal.

T

 

[RJ Howell]

Use some of my ideas in my proto layout.
I have since changed my design to rain head in the roof.
Kevin
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I will explore your build deeper tonight. Thank you for sharing. I will dig in it a bit before asking questions the build may answer. Very curious how you accomplished your pop-top.

 

[RJ Howell]

I will say to all.. I'm amazed at the responses given this is a Holiday! Thank you all!

 

[billiebob]

With my frp panel, exo cage kit and my hardsided poptopper, that can easily be done. You can do a full size door when fully extended. Have a offroad trailer built and my diy pod can be attached. Finish interior as you see fit.
Kevin

agreed there are 100s of ways to build the walls/top but as a plan, the FoxTail layout is one of best I've ever seen. And I would not say a different composite wall, solid wall roof ot full height door are an improvement unless they lower the build cost. One advantage to the FoxTail is full access and function with the top down. A full height door means a joint, more moving parts, a bit more complexity. I think he has it nailed for simplicity, cost effective, family camping. And using a gunbox for the shower is just way cool.

 

[The Artisan]

I will explore your build deeper tonight. Thank you for sharing. I will dig in it a bit before asking questions the build may answer. Very curious how you accomplished your pop-top.

It is currently patent pending and will submit for full patent this yr. You will see once the prototypes are done.
Kevin

 

[The Artisan]

agreed there are 100s of ways to build the walls/top but as a plan, the FoxTail layout is on of best I've ever seen. And I would not say a different composite wall, solid wall roof ot full height door are an improvement unless they lower the build cost. One advantage to the FoxTail is full access and function with the top down. A full height door means a joint, more moving parts, a bit more complexity. I think he has it nailed for simplicity, cost effective, family camping. And using a gunbox for the shower is just way cool.

Only difference in my kits is my R value is higher, panels use construction grade xps and 40k psi tensile and 35k psi compressive phenolic sheet then coated with polyurea . You still enter the small door and when popped it is full. My topper is a hard sided popup. My queen bed folds out of the way and you have a full 7' couch. Full kitchen and indoor shower. My kit is a diy shell and the builder can build as they see fit. With my design in my 12 foot box I can sleep 3 and dine for 3 and still have a full 8 x 7 room and 7 foot couch with a 40" plasma on the wall
Kevin

 

[shade]

Some refinement might be a good thing, but it sure beats the heck out of any factory built I've seen. Those things from Australia are the fideliest trailers ever. WAY too many moving parts.

Even without refinement, which would be a natural process leading into production, the home built FoxTail blows away what is out there.

Oh, I'm not saying it's a bad design, and I applaud what he's done. I just know that watching the edited video of the setup process would put me off that design. Maybe others would be just fine with it as is.

I'm also not one for fiddling with anything when it comes to camping, backpacking, or the like. A big reason I have my current camper is that I can deploy it or pack it up in a few seconds. To gain that simplicity, I'm willing to give up the space offered by the Foxtail design.

 

[billiebob]

My topper is a hard sided popup. My queen bed folds out of the way and you have a full 7' couch. Full kitchen and indoor shower. My kit is a diy shell and the builder can build as they see fit. With my design in my 12 foot box I can sleep 3 and dine for 3 and still have a full 8 x 7 room and 7 foot couch with a 40" plasma on the wall

apples and oranges.

Your design is way too big for me but might be close to what the OP is looking for. The FoxTail does all of that in 1/3 the space, and it sleeps a young family of 5. Which is what makes it an amazing design. And likely pretty cost effective. For some, me for sure, the outside kitchen & bath are are preferred over cooking, showering, pooping in an enclosed space. And from my experience as well as the FoxTail designers experience, insulated walls are really not required in 300 cubic feet. I think he has struck the perfect balance for 3 season camping.

I love cooking outdoors, I love bathing in a lake. I prefer an outhouse or a bucket over a toilet inside a camper. Keeping all the humidity and odours outside is a major goal for me.....

But off topic here because the op wants it all indoors.

 

[RJ Howell]

My topper is a hard sided popup.

Okay, now you have my attention fully!

A-Liner does it, but can't use the trailer unless extended. Fail..
Alto does it and rather nicely, yet their trailer is so weak.. Fail..

If you have come up with a vented/glass/screen hard side, that can be used without extending. Brother, you have something no one else has!
Or at least nothing I have been to date..

 

[The Artisan]

apples and oranges.

Your design is way too big for me but might be close to what the OP is looking for. The FoxTail does all of that in 1/3 the space, and it sleeps a young family of 5. Which is what makes it an amazing design. And likely pretty cost effective. For some, me for sure, the outside kitchen & bath are are preferred over cooking, showering, pooping in an enclosed space. And from my experience as well as the FoxTail designers experience, insulated walls are really not required in 300 cubic feet. I think he has struck the perfect balance for 3 season camping.

I love cooking outdoors, I love bathing in a lake. I prefer an outhouse or a bucket over a toilet inside a camper. Keeping all the humidity and odours outside is a major goal for me.....

But off topic here because the op wants it all indoors.

Yep everyone has their own tastes. My pods kits are all custom so they can be made to customer specs.
I do have a slide out charcoal grill on mine as I prefer cooking outdoors as well.
Kevin

 

[The Artisan]

Okay, now you have my attention fully!

A-Liner does it, but can't use the trailer unless extended. Fail..
Alto does it and rather nicely, yet their trailer is so weak.. Fail..

If you have come up with a vented/glass/screen hard side, that can be used without extending. Brother, you have something no one else has!
Or at least nothing I have been to date..

I have filled a void in the market place a full 40" self contained topper than can be mounted on top or sides to crate more space. look at my ig for the working scale model. www.instagram.com/compositepods
Kevin
My pshop on a 4runner

 

[RJ Howell]

apples and oranges.

Your design is way too big for me but might be close to what the OP is looking for. The FoxTail does all of that in 1/3 the space, and it sleeps a young family of 5. Which is what makes it an amazing design. And likely pretty cost effective. For some, me for sure, the outside kitchen & bath are are preferred over cooking, showering, pooping in an enclosed space. And from my experience as well as the FoxTail designers experience, insulated walls are really not required in 300 cubic feet. I think he has struck the perfect balance for 3 season camping.

I love cooking outdoors, I love bathing in a lake. I prefer an outhouse or a bucket over a toilet inside a camper. Keeping all the humidity and odours outside is a major goal for me.....

But off topic here because the op wants it all indoors.

Actually, looking for both. I've hit the age (retired) that getting up in the middle of night should not include going outdoors.. When buggy or raining like crap outside, I'd like to shower or cook indoors. We were in Jasper, Alberta 4 weeks ago with 3.5" of snow on the ground. The inside shower and heat was nice before venturing out. Was in upper Ontario/Quebec 2 weeks back dealing with bugs.. So happy to be able to do what we wished indoors, before heading out. I've reached a point of wanting convenience, and the back country. I found a road in Queensland that I would have killed my Rpod on. I don't wish to have that simple a road stop me again. Thus leads me to building my own!

I don't see why we have to choose between the two! A proper built unit can bring it all to areas we can enjoy. Okay, maybe not where you all can go, yet further than any conventional trailer would go.

I've dealt with the Rpod on 3 runs now (20k miles) through some many places it was not meant for. We found what we love to do and how we would like to do it.

Thus, the build, design begins.

Love all the input given!

 

[The Artisan]

Actually, looking for both. I've hit the age (retired) that getting up in the middle of night should not include going outdoors.. When buggy or raining like crap outside, I'd like to shower or cook indoors. We were in Jasper, Alberta 4 weeks ago with 3.5" of snow on the ground. The inside shower and heat was nice before venturing out. Was in upper Ontario/Quebec 2 weeks back dealing with bugs.. So happy to be able to do what we wished indoors, before heading out. I've reached a point of wanting convenience, and the back country. I found a road in Queensland that I would have killed my Rpod on. I don't wish to have that simple a road stop me again. Thus leads me to building my own!

I don't see why we have to choose between the two! A proper built unit can bring it all to areas we can enjoy. Okay, maybe not where you all can go, yet further than any conventional trailer would go.

I've dealt with the Rpod on 3 runs now (20k miles) through some many places it was not meant for. We found what we love to do and how we would like to do it.

Thus, the build, design begins.

Love all the input given!

bigger detail of my bathroom and composting toilet. The toilet and shower configuration has changed a little.
Kevin