Trailer jacks

Lawrence

Adventurer
Martyn said:
Something to consider here on selection of wheels is the tongue weight. The AT and military trailers are built with a low tongue weight where as the KK is much heavier.

So while the KK may have problems with a solid wheel in soft soil and sand the smaller balanced trailers will not. The selection of a pneumatic tire for the KK in this case may be more applicable. You just have to carry a repair kit.

I respect your operation and there are several members who like your trailers, but comparing an AT to a KK is apples and oranges. We all agree that a pneumatic tire might go flat, but carrying a couple of patches is no big deal, they fit nicely in my tire repair kit. ;)

Since the OP doesn’t have either trailer but an M416 instead, his choices are wide open. I don’t know where he plans on going (i.e. type of terrain), but given the fact that he might add an RTT, he should not overlook a pneumatic wheel for better flotation with two people in the tent.

Tucson T4R said:
I have the hard rubber jockey wheel on my KK and it has been a problem for me in soft or muddy soil. Do you know where I could find a pneumatic tire that will fit the KK?
Not at the top of my head. Have you tried contacting KK? I can take measurements and pics of mine if this helps. I’ll also look into it.
 

Tucson T4R

Expedition Leader
Lawrence said:
..............Not at the top of my head. Have you tried contacting KK? I can take measurements and pics of mine if this helps. I’ll also look into it.


OK, thanks. I have a KK contact and I'll check with him too.
 

Martyn

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
Lawrence said:
I respect your operation and there are several members who like your trailers, but comparing an AT to a KK is apples and oranges. We all agree that a pneumatic tire might go flat, but carrying a couple of patches is no big deal, they fit nicely in my tire repair kit. ;)

Since the OP doesn’t have either trailer but an M416 instead, his choices are wide open. I don’t know where he plans on going (i.e. type of terrain), but given the fact that he might add an RTT, he should not overlook a pneumatic wheel for better flotation with two people in the tent.

Lawrence

My intention was not to imply anything negative about the KK. But rather to show that different designs and tongue weights lend to different jockey wheels. Each wheel has it's pros and cons.

I do however think that comparing off road trailers to each other in a positive fashion is healthy. I believe it helps the consumer end up with a trailer that is better suited to their needs. It's a system that we work by at AT, where we will refer a customer to an other brand of trailer if we think it better suites their usage.

If memory serves me, the first import of KK's consisted of 4 trailers and Mario and I sold two of them. We also refer people to Campa, Tentrax, and any number of pop-up manufacturers.

There is nothing worse than dealing with a customer down the road who you "encouraged" into a sale when the product doesn't meet their needs.
 

ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
For my own use I'd rather have a flat foot than the tire on soft ground. I carry a couple small sections of plywood to place under the stabilizing and tongue jacks when necessary.
At home is a different story, the tire makes moving it around on the driveway worth the trouble to install it.
 

Lawrence

Adventurer
Martyn - Agreed. I was merely pointing out the fact that the OP has a M416 and his tongue weight is nothing to worry about. I also wanted to point out that since he has plans for an RTT, a pneumatic wheel might not be that bad of an idea.

As you said, a solid wheel is probably not the best choice on a KK. However, were I to buy or modify a trailer for a RTT, I would most likely opt for a pneumatic wheel regardless of the tongue weight. I have a jack with a foot on my military trailer, and I've had to use a piece of wood from time to time so not to sink in, and it makes it impossible for my wife to move the trailer.

Brad - check www.servicecaster.com under Martin or Hamilton. www.hamiltoncaster.com seems to have a decent selection, maybe you'll find something which fits.
 

cruiseroutfit

Well-known member
My trailer uses a standard top pivot jack and foot. With the low tongue weight I have never needed to roll it, one person can simple lift it.
 

Tucson T4R

Expedition Leader
Lawrence said:
.............Not at the top of my head. Have you tried contacting KK? I can take measurements and pics of mine if this helps. I’ll also look into it.

I discussed the jockey tire with the KK engineer. He said they stopped using the pneumatic tires because they had too many problem with leaks and even the tire rolling off the rim (sounds like too low a pressure). That's why they now only use the hard rubber tires. I guess I'll listen to his experienced recomendation and stay with my hard rubber jockey tire.
 

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