Tundra vs F150

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Buliwyf

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1% warranty failure rate is pretty darn good for any US manufacturer. Give or take aircraft.

That's at least 750 broken warranty Fords trucks every month. A 4% failure rate means one warranty truck every month per dealership. (Assuming that lil Lincoln dealers also count) If you build and sell a truck every 30 seconds, sell a rather complex machine, with rather complex part supply vendors, with minimal QC checks, and minimal dealer service training..........there's going to be plenty of ammo for the haters.

1.1 million trucks from only 3 factories.
 
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toylandcruiser

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So what is your proof that the F-150 uses lighter/smaller but still "better" materials? The Tundra is rated to tow/haul less, but it uses beefier components...my point is that ratings (even those using SAE methods) don't always live up to reality. There is absolutely nothing about the Tundra's chassis that is weak or under-engineered as compared to what's on the F-150's chassis.

Tundra's frame is C-channel, but so was the previous gen F-250/350's...is anyone going to argue that the current F-150's frame is more robust by comparison simply because it is boxed?



The higher gearing with the ecoboost makes sense. The higher gearing with v8 (which is a similar approach that the other 2 domestic OEM's take), doesn't make as much sense. At least with their v8's, most OEM's are trading off low-end torque delivery for fuel economy....the Tundra takes a different approach. I'd rather rely on appropriate gearing than constant transmission shifting to get good torque delivery.




That's great, your experiences are 1/1. Lots of other people have worked the Tundra and F-150 side by side and don't share your opinion.



There are compromises with engine tuning...you're just aren't being honest with yourself. Gearing, tires, lift, ect. are the type of things that an overlander or offroader might look to tweak....the engine is generally best off if its left stock. The aftermarket and garage tuners do not have nearly the same amount of experience and knowledge that the OEM engineers do. But like I said, it's the owner's call.

You’d be better off talking to a wall
 

toylandcruiser

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When you look at the statistics, the F150 trails the Tundra in reliability by a small margin.... Buuuut since they sell 7-8 F150s for every one Tundra that's to be expected.

How many million mike f150s are there? 2 tundras and another creeping up there.
 
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1% warranty failure rate is pretty darn good for any US manufacturer. Give or take aircraft.

That's at least 750 broken warranty Fords trucks every month. A 4% failure rate means one warranty truck every month per dealership. (Assuming that lil Lincoln dealers also count) If you build and sell a truck every 30 seconds, sell a rather complex machine, with rather complex part supply vendors, with minimal QC checks, and minimal dealer service training..........there's going to be plenty of ammo for the haters.

1.1 million trucks from only 3 factories.


They are definitely complex, but not overwhelmingly so. Surprisingly there is no shortage of room under the hood and everything seems to be pretty easy to get at.

I know when I pull the turbos to upgrade them it will be muuch easier than one would think.
 

Todd780

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I noticed both million mile Tundras are 4.7's. I wonder if the 5.7's will see that kind of lifespan?

Seen a few Fords advertised for sale with pretty high miles. None at a million yet. But some high figures none the less.
 
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I noticed both million mile Tundras are 4.7's. I wonder if the 5.7's will see that kind of lifespan?

Seen a few Fords advertised for sale with pretty high miles. None at a million yet. But some high figures none the less.

There is a guy on a F150 forum that has something like half a million miles on his 2.7.
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
Propo warning, but:
 

rruff

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When you look at the statistics, the F150 trails the Tundra in reliability by a small margin.... Buuuut since they sell 7-8 F150s for every one Tundra that's to be expected.

Logic fail. :unsure:

The Tundra on average is more reliable by a significant margin, which is why they don't depreciate like the F150. Of course being a 12 year old design you'd expect most of the bugs to be worked out! The F150 comes out on top in most other performance categories, but the differences are marginal. The Tundra is cheaper to own in spite of the poor MPG and and is less likely to spend time in the shop. Just depends on where your priorities lie.
 

calicamper

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When you look at the statistics, the F150 trails the Tundra in reliability by a small margin.... Buuuut since they sell 7-8 F150s for every one Tundra that's to be expected.
More like 100 F150’s for every Tundra sold. Plus F150’s are 50-1 used in trades and heavy work vs Tundras that are typically soccer dad trucks
 
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