Wallygator
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Ugly, plus it's GM, no thanks.
True, but the Wrangler was released what? 6 months early as a 2020? And the Bronco has been teased, not released. This 2021 truck was released (photos of it anyway) and I don't even think you can build a 2020 on most manufactures websites yet.there have been a lot of vehicles released over a year early and then some not so early. Heck Ford Bronco has been releasing tidbits of the new bronco for years. The JT Gladiator nearly as long. Kind of like how some retailers start advertising for Christmas in July and by November are putting all away and advertising for summer lol.
I would say all gm vehicles are now very ugly, look at the new HD truck or Silverado... definitely very ugly trucks.
Same here. Where I live, I swear over 50% of the trucks you see are new duramax's and I think they look pretty good coming at you or in your rearview mirror.My initial reaction to seeing the posted photo was positive.
I don't mind the 2020 Silverado HD either, so perhaps I'm my tastes are different from the majority.
Agree on the Ram 1500's. The '19 HD Ram's haven't grown on me yet. I'm curious to see what the HD's look like once they get a full refresh in a year or two.I felt the same way about the updated Rams.
But the new updates have surprisingly grown on me.
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Personal opinion I think a lot of vehicle front ends are overdesigned (as in there's too much going on, visually) and this is no exception.
But cosmetics are subjective. What's more objective I'm actually a little surprised at how much tire exposure is apparent here - and not just in the headline photo with the suspension unloaded a little, there's a lot of tire in all of the shots.
As most of us here, I'm well accustomed to travel on difficult terrain and aware of the advantages an extreme approach angle affords but there's no free lunch in this world. Tire exposure has compromises in terms of crash compatibility, managing occupant safety (is that tire going to crush your foot in an offset collision with no bumper ahead of it to manage movement?), tires are aerodynamically disastrous and subsequent to that they contribute significantly to wind noise, and not trivially the absence of a bumper ahead of a tire can allow for the hazardous wall-of-water when entering even minor puddles at crest speed.
The above aren't meant to be complaints or pointless whining. I like the tire exposure in general both for its improved approach to serious terrain and it just looks cool but I'm curious how and if they've addressed the necessary compromises.
My initial reaction to seeing the posted photo was positive.
I don't mind the 2020 Silverado HD either, so perhaps I'm my tastes are different from the majority.
Maybe that's because I'm not. Clearly the vehicle's going to pass FMVSS to sell, I said I'm curious how. The tire's outside the frame so a crash beam between the frame rails isn't going to be involved in an offset that hits the tire is it? So the tire has to get pushed under the cabin or it's crushing feet. That means they probably have a reinforcement that pushes it under the cabin, these are engineering details I'm curious about for curiosity's sake.
No need for the attitude.
That's funny!!!This is what I see