Part time fulltimer
I will never stop kicking myself for missing the $60k Earthroamer lol
Ask your bank, they would be able to determine market value. I wouldn't think you would be interested in the very inflated COVID RV prices.. . . After inspection we asked for sales comparables for similar vehicles that have actually sold so we could get an idea of were the market was. We were told that this info is not available as it is "confidential." . . .
Then there is the claims they make on their website....."several owners have sold their XV for more than they paid new"
Thanks vintageracerAnother "What's It Worth" post.
It's not Earthroamer's job to do your research.
Step up and be a Big Boy and figure it out for yourself!
Pre-Roamed Earthroamers are done as consignment and the owner dictates the price. Earthroamer has no control of that. They are consulted on for suggestions though.If it were me, I'd depreciate sales price based on what I thought the market is doing (in general) and combine that with what your budget is and adjust / judge accordingly. Come to the table with some numbers, how you arrived at the numbers and tell them to prove you wrong if you wanna play the numbers game with them.
At the end of the day it's worth whatever they can get somebody to pay for it / whatever it's worth to you, if you are interested and have the money come to the table and negotiate vs playing games and figure out a price....that's how it's always worked in my world.
Another thing that isn't much prioritized or discussed [not as fun as showing off the luxury interior riding on a fat-tire SRW beadlock setup with air suspension on yotube] is just how closely folks track how much weight they are throwing on their truck for a trip, especially when they think little of loading a dirtbike, generator, fuel, etc. on a rack or in a hitch or other storage box, or a trailer on the back of an already lengthened chassis, then add the standard food/beer, fuel, and passengers. I would guess that the owners who don't tally their loads carefully would tend to be the ones who don't regularly do the old school checks: oil+coolant+trans fluid+ tire air pressure regularly & especially check tire press. upon a transition from offroad to driving fast on pavement, putting a hand on each hub&tire to check for excessive heat at stops, hand torque their own wheel lugnuts to the right spec, make sure their diff fluid is topped off, swap in a clean air filter after a few hundred miles of dust/dirt road, ensure proper maintenance schedules are followed, etc., etc., etc.
That is good info. I was going to convert to the kelderman on my ER (an XVLT that I've had since I bought it new in late 08 before they were using kelderman or 335/80 tires) but after a lot of research went with a leaf/coil setup from Pohl Springworks (Spokane WA, excellent crew who were familiar with the platform having done a few Canadian F550 brush rigs with larger tires) and finally decided on an L-rated (9090lbs at 130PSI) 315/80r22.5 tire on the alcoa wheels (rated to 10k lbs). These are slightly taller (~42") and slightly narrower (~12") than the 335/80r20 MPT81 or GY275. I chose them mainly because I wanted a simpler suspension and particularly dedicated wheels/tires for winter (Conti HDW2) and summer (Conti HDR2+). The kelderman+MPT81's with the beadlock wheels seemed to be great for airing down for the rough offroad and being able to level the rig out at the campsite but IMO the tires were wearing out somewhat quickly with other owners, could be tough to balance and required more maintenance overall. I was also concerned about the complexity of the air system and how it would perform in the cold with condensation/etc. because I am camping more in winter than summer. I also thought the MPT81 per tire max weight limit ~6300lbs was not enough of a buffer for my rear axle weight for offroading fully loaded and of less concern, is speed limited to 68mph (think the Goodyear is rated to 75 or 81mph). I have best balance of mileage vs speed driving 65mph. I am contemplating the Michelin XDN2 Grip in the future, the HDW2 has been discontinued in 315/80, though my current tires show little wear after several years.Great description of all the things I have learned to do since I bought my Roamer. I am aslo mindful of what I am taking with me. Below is a snippet from a discussion in the ER Community I made a while ago.
My stamp from ER themselves says the following;
GVWR is 21,060LBs
Front GAWR is 7,500LBs with 335/80R20 Tires, 20x11 Rims @ 34 PSI Cold
Rear GAWR is 14,706LBs with 335/80R20 Tires, 20x11 Rims @ 90 PSI Cold
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My stamp from Ford says (Incomplete Vehicle MFD. by Ford Motor Company)
GVWR is 19,500LBs
Front GAWR is 7,500LBs with 225/70R19.5G Tires, 19.5x6RW Rims @ 105 PSI Cold
Rear GAWR is 14,706LBs with 225/70R19.5G Tires, 19.5x6RW Rims Dual @ 110 PSI Cold
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I have also included my cat scale PDFs from 9/8/21 when I weighed having the most gear for a six month trip around the states, and also the one I did a few weeks ago on 7/21/22 when it empty of gear. While I was empty of gear I did have have 90% fuel and 90% water and myself in the truck. I believe diesel is around 7lbs per gallon @ 85 gallons is 595lbs. Water is 8.3lbs per gallon @ 90 gallons is 747lbs. I weigh another 240ish lbs. Total of ~1582 lbs and most of it in the rear axle. I don't actually know how it would be spread on the scale.
My fully loaded cat scale weight was 6,560 (of 7,500) in the front, and 14,800 (of 14,706) in the rear. My total was 21,360 (of 21,060) and I am about 300lbs heavy on GVWR.
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My empty cat scale weight was 6,500 (of 7,500) in the front, and 13,580 (of 14,706) in the rear. My total was 20,080 (of 21,060) and I am almost 1000lbs light on GVWR.
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Same concept applies in any negotiation in my mind, regardless of who owns the pink-slip, what are you willing to pay / value to you and start there, it either makes sense or it doesn't.Pre-Roamed Earthroamers are done as consignment and the owner dictates the price. Earthroamer has no control of that. They are consulted on for suggestions though.