What to get and what to avoid Pop Up Brands for Off Road use???

[idaho spud]

FWC, ATC, Northstar ...

greetings - question please ... when any of these
pop up rigs are in a "closed" state - is there any usable
access space inside. opened up of course you have access
to all of the amenities - ???
also - it appears the the Northstar seems to be the only model
with a "dinette" sort of table ???

any feedback ...
thanx
spud

 

[tnt]

Four Wheel campers recently started to offer a dinette option.

With the top down on ours, I can get in the fridge, turn on the heater, or sit on the couch, but have no access to the sink or stove.

 

[tnt]

Four Wheel campers recently started to offer a dinette option.

With the top down on ours ('03 FWC Hawk), I can get in the fridge, turn on the heater, or sit on the couch, but have no access to the sink or stove.

 

[DanoT]

I'd avoid the Phoenix. My buddy had them custom build a 9' popup for his flatbed Dodge CTD. It's been a nightmare. He even removed the logo on the outside. Funky lift mechanism. I like my Northstar.

I'm considering purchasing a Phoenix so I am interested in the specifics of your buddy's nightmare experience with Phoenix. There is a youtube vid showing a Phoenix with a power lift mechanism lifting 2 400lb ATVs parked on the roof!

 

[18seeds]

I'm considering purchasing a Phoenix so I am interested in the specifics of your buddy's nightmare experience with Phoenix. There is a youtube vid showing a Phoenix with a power lift mechanism lifting 2 400lb ATVs parked on the roof!

A few years ago there were a lot of posts here and rv.net about phoenix poor craftmanship. I know recently phoenix has changed a lot of their techniques.

Over the last 5 years i have probably looked at a dozen used phoenix campers. Similiar to an outfitter they do not age well. I would prefer a northstar, hallmark, fwc or xp.

I do believe that phoenix deseves another look. I know they changed the pop up material a few years ago and that helped a lot.

 

[Maximus Ram]

Ken,
You ever get the camper ? Got Pics ?
Updates....

 

[Regcabguy]

I'm considering purchasing a Phoenix so I am interested in the specifics of your buddy's nightmare experience with Phoenix. There is a youtube vid showing a Phoenix with a power lift mechanism lifting 2 400lb ATVs parked on the roof!

The canvas on the corners and over the door is being chaffed to the point of no return. No fusebox. He hates the lift mechanism. In fairness to Phoenix,this was a custom order of 9' in length and very little inside. They were the only company willing to build a custom length camper. It has survived multiple journeys along the northern Pacific coast of Baja due to his flatbed's integrity. The owner could elaborate,but he doesn't monitor this site. In his case it just didn't work out well.

 

[offroadcamperguy]

A few years ago there were a lot of posts here and rv.net about phoenix poor craftmanship. I know recently phoenix has changed a lot of their techniques.

Over the last 5 years i have probably looked at a dozen used phoenix campers. Similiar to an outfitter they do not age well. I would prefer a northstar, hallmark, fwc or xp.

I do believe that phoenix deseves another look. I know they changed the pop up material a few years ago and that helped a lot.

Please know if anyone is looking at a Phoenix camper, that there are several happy campers out there with older models, Many of them are out there enjoying their campers not sitting on a computer.. Our lift system is much different than any other, it is not a crank lift and can be used very easily. Please do you homework when it comes to buying a camper, and look at what you want out of your camper and get many different opinions from many sites, not just hear say..... we can get you in touch with owner who have had their Phoenix campers for 10+ years if you are interested, just give us a call!