What's in your Call Out Bag?

RVR2RSQ

RVR2RSQ

Observer
NASAR 24 hour pack

Did you compare it to the NASAR pack?

The form seems to try and combine the equipment, skills and certs on one sheet. Seems a little jumbled to me with the ready pack list and then semi-tech equipment below. It also doesn't get into specifics, for example it says first aid kit, but does not say what should be in the kit. Are just bandaids sufficient, or should you have SAM splints, wraps, abdominal pads, etc.

It also mentions different knots you need to know, but doesnt specify you need to have any rope.:smilies27


Brian
 
BriansFJ

BriansFJ

Adventurer
:iagree:Yeah, it's a little slim. As soon as I can figure out how to post my team's list (PDF) I'll do so.

Edit: list copied on a new post below...
 
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BriansFJ

BriansFJ

Adventurer
Okay, here's my team's equipment list:Wow1:.

* Medical Supplies *
*Bandaging
Band Aids
Ace bandage, 4”
Triangular bandage, 40”
4x4 gauze (4 each)
Roller gauze
Fabric tape, 1-2”
Sam splint
Safety pins
*Body Substance Isolation
Biohazard gloves, 2 pr.
Eye protection, clear lenses
Rescue breathing shield
*Miscellaneous
Personal medication
Blister protection
Soap

* Survival Essentials *
*Shelter/warmth
Rescue blanket and/or large garbage bag
Sleeping bag, 0° F
Insulating pad
Shelter, tent or bivy sack
Fire starting material
*Signaling/navigation
Compass
Ground/air emergency signals
Map of local area (Pikes Peak Atlas, Pike National Forest, “The Map” book, others as appropriate)
Signaling Mirror
Plastic whistle
Flagging
*Personal Protection
Ear plugs
Eye protection
Insect Repellent
Sunscreen
*Miscellaneous
Headlamp with spare batteries and bulb
Knife
Screwdriver
Parachute cord, 50’
Paper
Pencil
Stove with fuel (72 hrs)
Container to heat water
Cooking utensils

* Personal Clothing *
Lug sole mountaineering boots, waterproof
Winter mountaineering boots
Lightweight socks, 2 pr
Heavyweight socks, 2 pr
Gaiters
Lightweight insulating underwear, tops and bottoms (1stlayer)
Heavyweight insulating underwear, tops and bottoms (1stlayer)
Orange shirt
Insulating shirt (2ndlayer)
Pants (2ndlayer)
Insulating jacket (3rdlayer)
Insulating pants (3rdlayer)
Windproof outer shell jacket
Windproof outer shell pants
Rain gear
Leather gloves
Liner gloves
Insulated gloves/mittens
Overmitts, wind/water resistant
Hat, balaclava
Face protection – full, no skin exposed
It is understood that none of the clothing mentioned is to be cotton. Some may be dual-purpose; e.g., waterproof outer shells can serve as rain gear.

* Personal Equipment *
Harness, comfortable
Helmet, UIAA approved
Locking carabiners (4)
Descending device
Prusiks, 4’, 5’, 6’, & 8’, 7mm perlon
Webbing slings, 12’ x 1”
Day pack
Large backpacking pack
Repair kit (sewing kit, safety, pins, buckles, duct tape, wire)
Straps for lashing gear to pack
Watch with second display
Ice axe with covers and leash
Goggles
Avalanche shovel
Snowshoes
Crampons with covers
Lengths of webbing slings and prusiks are before tying.

* Food and Water *
Food for 72 hours
Snacks for 24 hours
Water (2 quarts)
Water (2 qrts) in insulated containers
Water purification tablets or filter
 
S

Something

Adventurer
great post
thanks!


first, why earplugs?

also, four pair of socks seems excessive to me. I thruhiked the AT and PCT and carried two.
 
BriansFJ

BriansFJ

Adventurer
Something said:
great post
thanks!


first, why earplugs?

also, four pair of socks seems excessive to me. I thruhiked the AT and PCT and carried two.
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Earplugs are for helicopter ops, which we do with varying frequency. Also for snoring tentmates on overnight missions:D.

I had to cut and paste the list a bit to get it to post. These are minimum requirements to have on hand, but not everything goes with us for each mission. Truth be told, I usually am only carrying 1 spare pair besides what I have on. I think there is also a bit of a difference between lightweight thru hikers who have to conserve weight and space vs. SAR missions which, as many can attest, usually are guaranteed to happen in the worst possible weather...:snorkel:
 
D

Dale

Adventurer
Something Adventurer. What team do you claim to be with?
Dale Lersch
Commander, Allegheny Mountain Rescue Group
 
D

Dale

Adventurer
To Clarify: "Something" is in the Allegheny Mountain Rescue Group training program and has not yet met the qualifications to be considered "Callout Qualified". He is very enthusiastic and I am sure will be a great operational member with proper training.
Second, the gear list for Field Team Members posted on our website is personal gear required by PA DCNR and the Applachian Search and Rescue Conference (ASRC) for FTM certification.
 
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Something

Adventurer
Dale said:
To Clarify: "Something" is in the Allegheny Mountain Rescue Group training program and has not yet met the qualifications to be considered "Callout Qualified". He is very enthusiastic and I am sure will be a great operational member with proper training.
Second, the gear list for Field Team Members posted on our website is personal gear required by PA DCNR and the Applachian Search and Rescue Conference (ASRC) for FTM certification.
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Thanks Dale.
My apologies to all if I mislead anyone or depicted myself as something (no pun intended) I have yet to become.
Indeed I am very enthusiastic about joining those already qualified individuals as a search and rescue team member and I'm currently in the process of taking the appropriate steps, including, but not limited to, exploring various call-out bag content and SAR-specific vehicle modifications.
 
teotwaki

teotwaki

Excelsior!
Dale said:
To Clarify: "Something" is in the Allegheny Mountain Rescue Group training program and has not yet met the qualifications to be considered "Callout Qualified". He is very enthusiastic and I am sure will be a great operational member with proper training.
Second, the gear list for Field Team Members posted on our website is personal gear required by PA DCNR and the Applachian Search and Rescue Conference (ASRC) for FTM certification.
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OFF TOPIC:
I for one did not need the "clarification" or that someone had to rein in the obvious enthusiasm of Something or explain what his qualifications are or aren't. This should be a discussion and sharing thread about the contents of call out bags. AMGR politics could be handled in their forum.

Back ON TOPIC:

I am not in any sort of organized rescue group. Generally in the course of my outdoor activities I have to plan on self rescue. I take an interest in these comparisons in order to update my carry gear whether I am adding or eliminating gear.

For instance in one of the lists it had both an emergency blanket and a 0 degree sleeping bag. I try to avoid the cheap and tiny foil blankets as they are so fragile. I do take one if I am space or weight limited. Otherwise I use the larger tarp version with grommets. It can be used as part of a shelter, a blanket or a ground sheet.
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For lightweight travel I combine a North Face half sleeping bag with either a synthetic jacket or down jacket.
The pair of them stuff down pretty small

Jacket using synthetic Primaloft insulation

Bag with primaloft insulation and wind/water resistant Pertex shell

Combined by zipping the bag's "tongue" into the jacket
 
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Something

Adventurer
moving on.....

Last OT post but I will say that I understand Dale's posts because he has actually not met me. All of my contact has been with the training officer, not the commander.
Therefore, like I said, I can understand his reaction of 'Who the hell's this guy?'.

No worries......moving on!

Do you feel you lose much heat at the connection point of the jacket and zipper?
Interesting concept.
 
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