Whats the diff?

gary in ohio

Explorer
What is the differences between a 97 Toyota land cruiser and a 97 Lexus lx 450? Aside from the Lexus labels and cosmetic items how close are they. Will after market LC parts will fit a LX? I am not looking to build a rock crawler but a lift and some stuff to keep me from getting stuck in the muddy pastures would be nice. If you had an option between two like condition/miles rigs, any reason to choose one over the other? How do parts cross between the two, how does the after market treat the LX for off road options?

Gary
 

Dirty Harry

Adventurer
Mechanically they are the same, so the suspension for an 80 will fit an LX and vise versa. According to Slee Off Road these are the only differences:

Revised Audio System with sub-woofer in the center console.
Optional factory installed cell phone.
Softer suspension.
Body cladding on doors, fenders and tailgate.
Rear bumper corner pieces are bigger and the rear cross member is coverer with a plastic trim piece. Mud flaps are two-tone colored and not interchangeable with an Toyota
Auto Climate Control
Softer leather on seats and additional sound proofing.
 

CodyLX450

Adventurer
From the FAQ on IH8MUD:

There are minor electrical, body, badging, and shock differences.

The LX has side and rear plastic body cladding.
The LX has body colored mud flaps.
The LX has different shaped headlights and front grille.
The LX has clear side marker lenses.
The LX came with a different sound system that has the sub in the console and a 6 disc CD.
The LX does not have a rear sub-woofer so the right cargo area panel is different.
The LX does not have speakers above the 3rd row seats.
The LX has various Lexus badges (front, rear, engine, steering wheel, and others).
The LX has different alloy wheels and center caps.
The LX has softer shocks.
The LX was equipped with the Auto climate control that was avail in '97 40th and CE models.
The LX, reportedly, has a higher quality leather.
The LX uses different FSM and EWD manuals and may have different colored wires so it's a good idea to use the appropriate manuals if you are a DIY guy.
Some of the LX interior brackets are painted different colors than the corresponding bracket on the LC.
The LX windshield tint is bronze and the LC tint is blue. (Per NorCalDug 14.May.2004)

The LX has built-in cell phone (Optional & '96 technology)
The LX Left Rear sliding window is fixed and does not slide open. (All LX's with or without optional cell phone)
(This slider had cell phone antenna on it)

Lexus dealers will provide the vehicle service record for all work done at any Lexus dealer.

The diff locks were optional on both the LX and LC. Approx 7% of LC's had the option. Nobody has supplied a knowledgeable estimate of the number of LX's with the option.

OME and other vendor's suspensions will work on the LX. There are no suspension and chassis differences other than the aforementioned softer stock shocks on the LX.

The above list is probably not complete. Those with LX's can fill in the differences.

(Corrections per Alaska's comments below...)
(Additions per medtro's comments below...)

Additions 9-Sept-2004

The LX has a different style key providing a little more security
The LX has a smaller center console due to the CD changer & subwoofer
The LX has a higher quality (but still 'fake') wood trim compared to the Toyota option
The LX rear bumper is slightly different
The LX flares are integrated with the plastic side cladding. This is different than the LC.
The LX came with a small FAK (First Aid Kit)

Additions 29-Jan-2005

All LX's have oak (aka tan) leather guts. Grey was not available.
The LX has more sound deadener.
The aluminum step on the LC is covered with plastic on the LX. I have verified that some LX's have the aluminum step under the plastic and some do not. Raven's did not have it but Troutrunner's had the aluminum step.

Addition 25-Sept-2005

All LX's have the rear diff-lock wiring harness from the cowl to the rear quarter. This harness is present even on those vehicles without the diff lock option. On the LC, only those vehicles with the diff lock option have the proper wiring harness.

Addition 28-Feb-2006
The 1997 LX got color matched paint on the running boards and roof rack. These items are painted black on the LC.
 

zimm

Expedition Leader
oddly, the suspension on the 450 is better for OR in stock form. i decided to spend the extra money and go with a 470 myself. im second guessing that.
 

gary in ohio

Explorer
Maybe I should also ask it this way. what do the numbers indicate 450, 470,570 within the model? in the 2007 only the 470 is available, and 570 in the 2008, but the lx470 span several years. confused.


Gary
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
gary in ohio said:
Maybe I should also ask it this way. what do the numbers indicate 450, 470,570 within the model? in the 2007 only the 470 is available, and 570 in the 2008, but the lx470 span several years. confused.
The LX450 is based on the 1FZ-FE engine (the 4.5L I6 engine) and the LX470 is based on the 2UZ-FE engine (iForce 4.7L V8). As an aside, this is why the GX470 is called the GX470, it's also got the 4.7L V8. The LX570 will have the 3UR-FE engine (iForce 5.7L V8). The LX part doesn't really differentiate, but they are based on the full size Land Cruiser wagon, the LX450 is the 80 series and the LX470 is the 100 series. The LX570 will be based on the new LC 130 series wagon. The GX trucks are based on the 120 series LC Prado (which is the same platform as the 4Runner, FJ Cruiser and current Taco, BTW). Confused?
 

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